Kerry has no chance!

[dennis4868]

Listen, I am going to do whatever I can do to help Kerry win in November. I will take time off from work and volunteer for his campaign. But the fact of the matter is that Kerry does not stand a chance against Bush in November.

I say this because the media has a big say as to who will win the election. If Bush's lies and fraud were going to bring him down it would have happnened already. Yes, his approval ratings remain low but some polls show that he still would defeat Kerry. Also, the media has only begun to (Al) Gore Kerry. He is being attacked for being a flip flopper, liar and an apologist for the terrorist. We all know this is not true but the media picks up on anything this WH and the RNC say and give it legs. Meanwhile, Bush and his thugs tell their medicare guy to not tell the truth to congress as to the price of the medicare prescription bill, lie about the war, lie about the tax cuts, lie about jobs, lie about the environment, out a CIA Agent because her hubby exposed one of their lies, etc, etc. etc....and the media does not care about this....they give the story a day's worth of attention and then all is fogotten...no legs to these stories when each of these lies should be front page news for weeks and weeks.

The media has made it clear that they are going to Gore Kerry big time while giving Bush a free pass on all of his lies and criminal conduct. How can Kerry ever overcome any of this. It is just too much.

For example, what national cable TV show can one watch to get an objective look at the world of politics? There is none! They all lean to the right and it is quite clear they are going to go after Kerry for everry little thing and simply ignore Bush's crimes.....has anyone in the media even mentioned the valerie Plame story lately. I mean how can anyone vote for Bush after what his WH did to this poor government official? But yet Kerry gets slammed because he calls Repubs liars and crooks.

I dont even think God could beat Bush under these circumstances.

Do any of you have hope for the 2004 elections?

[CatWoman]

1. *groan*

ok, fuck it!

run to the hills!!!!

the sky is falling!!

the moon is rising!!

floods!!

famine!!!

pestilence!!!

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

5. catwoman

you are seriously my hero! haha :D

[dennis4868]

8. I dont think I intended my post....

to be funny....it is actually quite sad what is happening right now.

[CatWoman]

34. I wasn't trying to be funny either

[Octafish]

2. Kerry didn't have a chance in Iowa.

Yet, Kerry won.

Same in New Hampshire.

Yet, he won.

Who can tell what the future holds?

If you want to guess, DU Friend, dennis4868:

Imagine Bush and Kerry in a debate.

Afterward, Bush would cry.

Kerry would smile.

[dennis4868]

4. Imagine Bush and Kerry in a debate.

Yes, Kerry would make Bush look like a little schoolboy during a debate. But you know the media is going to portray Bush as the clear winner...remember the Bush/Gore debates?

[Octafish]

15. "Sigh." Yeah.

So, this time we're forewarned. And that means bad news for Bushler.

This is what the TV will show:



Here's what DU and our MILLIONS of friends across the US and the World will show:



Ha ha ha ha hee haw (maniacal Democratic Donkey laugh)!!!!

[Dhalgren]

37. Octafish, man, you are too cool!

"Is that man wearing a fish mask?"
"No, that man is wearing a fish mask."

Love those pictures.

[Trajan]

25. Methinks that ...

OUT of the thousands of posters on DU: one or two will run around screaming their head off that blue is too blue: or not blue enough ....

The truth is: Bush MAY win .... or Bush MAY lose ....

Too close to call this very moment, so why fret ? ....

[Faygo Kid]

3. Kerry has a chance in an honest election. Will we get one?

I think Florida is off the table for an honest election. Diebold is in Bush's pocket. The Republican Secretaries of State in the states had better line up, or they are toast. Can Kerry beat Bush? In an honest election, he can and will. Will there be an honest election. . . ?

[TiredTexan]

6. I have moments like this too,

but I read recently that repub groups and Bush spent 3 times as much as Gore in 2000. Moreover, the media gave Bush a complete pass, and trashed Gore endlessly.

And yet, we all know that Bush lost.

Now, we have much more organization, a fighting candidate, and a somewhat awake media.

I have heard many repubs I know (I'm in Dallas, TX) lately confess that they were not going to vote for him again (several who are active in GOP politics), and also that he will lose.

Not a time to get weak at the knees.

Giving up is not an option.

[no name no slogan]

27. That's right: Shrub spent $200m, Gore spent $140m.

And Gore STILL WON! We know the media is stacked against us, that the Repubs will spend even more than they did in 2000 to spread lies and rumours, and you know what?

We can STILL win, if we stick to a campaign based on the Democratic Party's winning issues: The economy, job loss, stagnating wages, rising healthcare costs, an end to unjustified wars...

...and did I mention this horseshit economy? :D

This race is ours to LOSE right now. Will ANY Gore/Nader voter seriously consider voting for the Shrub in 2004? HIGHLY unlikely. However, I have a pretty good feeling a lot of disenchanted Shrub voters will come our way in 2004, no matter who/what we run for President.

We shouldn't be overconfident, but we should still bust our humps to campaign against the unelected fraud in the White House-- Diebold or no Diebold. After all, most states don't use Diebold's equipment.

[IronLionZion]

7. that's the spirit!

great attitude so early in the game. :eyes: :crazy:

[SummerGrace]

9. Absolutely no hope at all

if we don't fight back. I will not surrender.

[alcuno]

10. Stop watching cable.

I saw the network reports tonight and it was a lot of bad news for *. Cable is a cesspool and we should all be aware before wading in.

[Career Prole]

11. You talkin' to me?

Yes. Absolutely. I actually am 100% sure of a Democratic victory. I won't stop yelling and I won't stop donating until after dub's concession speech, but this one's in the bag. Thanks for asking!

[WiseMen]

12. Grassroots political education has been and still is the only way

to erect a defense against the power of the Corporate propaganda
machine.

Unfortunately this is hard. I requires much time and a lot of
knowledgeable foot-soldiers.

[rfkrocks]

13. The battle for America is upon us

defeat is not an option-will there be any country left after 4 more years of shrub? The alternative is impossible to deal with-Bush will spend money but that won't change his pathetically awful policy decisions-we will drink from the cup of victory my friends as a solitary helicopter takes off in a cold January day in 2005. The helicopter will be carrying the former President Bush (43) to his retirement ranch in Crawford Texas as newly elected President Kerry heads for his inaugural ball!

[Career Prole]

16. Helicopter my butt!

Make him ride his stickhorse! :D

[no name no slogan]

28. How about a bike with no seat? (n/t)

[Jane Austin]

23. Oh, PLEASE!

Don't send him back to Texas! Crawford is only 90 miles from here.

I hope he'll go to Kennebunkport where he can golf and sail the days away.

[redqueen]

41. I'll second that!

Doing canvassing I talked to many a Texan who opined that he is NOT a Texan and should NOT be sent back here.

[texas1928]

44. He will do like his daddy

Keep an address in Texas and claim residency, so he does not have to pay state income tax in Maine.

[Jane Austin]

46. Well at least his address won't be in Austin

I've heard they don't really like Austin.

Gee, I can't imagine why. :)

[elperromagico]

14. One difference between Gore and Kerry: Kerry's a fighter.

I don't think Kerry will let the media and the Republicans define him the way Gore did.

And remember this: Even though Gore didn't fight back, he still won. Imagine what might happen with Kerry, who will fight.

[Auntie Bush]

17. The only thing I have to say is

KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!! KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!! KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!! KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!! KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!! KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!!KERY IS GOING TO WIN!!! GOT IT?

[RetroLounge]

32. Who is Kery?

eom :)

[NewYorkerfromMass]

36. KERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY!

Have to compensate... :)

[Kathleen04]

18. Any of you ever hear that joke that David Letterman tells?...

It goes something like "George W. Bush has lost 3 million jobs, the economy is in bad shape, and he's gotten us into a war with Iraq...and the Democrats are over here scratching their heads saying 'uh..How are we going to beat this guy??'"

What's the deal with that? George W. Bush's record is very poor. We just have to make sure his dismal record is front and center in the campaign!

Al Gore ran a bad campaign and he still almost clinched it and Bush was somewhat unknown back then...

So far so good with the Kerry campaign..they're fighting back with rapid responses and keeping Bush's record up front. All we have to do is hold the Gore states + 1 or 2 more and we've got it. But, from what I've seen of the Kerry campaign so far..I think we'll do better than that.

[Leilani]

19. I have Great Hope for the elections!

Kerry will not roll over, he's a fighter.

The country is pretty evenly divided right now, just like it was in 2000. However, people didn't know Bush then, & were willing to take a chance.

The economy has deteriorated to the point where lots of people are very worried. If they haven't lost their job, they know someone who has.

Lastly, most people used to trust Shrub, but the discontent is growing. Every day there's a new story about deception. Today was hiding Medicare bills cost, & threatening the actuary with job loss.

I think it will be close again, but I believe Kerry will win electorally fairly comfortably.

[arewethereyet]

20. as of this point I agree but anything can happen and its early days

But Kerry need to start solidifying his iamge in the near term or it could get to be too late.

[TheDonkey]

21. bush is imploding

we can beat him if we work hard and keep upbeat!

[Jane Austin]

22. question

How many people have you personally registered to vote?

6? 10? 25?

I promise you it'll make you feel a lot more hopeful if you'll carry those registration forms around with you and ask every single person you meet if they are registered.

[redqueen]

42. THAT'S the ticket!

:yourock:

[Jane Austin]

47. Thanks

Now, if everybody will go out and register just TWO voters today, we'd be a lot closer to victory.

Party of the closeness of the vote issue is the millions of people who just don't participate.

I think they probably feel beat down and as if they have no power, so we have to convince them they DO have that one vote power, and together we can win it.

[indie_voter]

24. I have felt this way,BUT

Remember the old adage, the only thing to fear is fear itself.

I watched the anti-Bush Book author group on CSPAN the other day. I can't remember which one said it, but it struck a chord with me.Even if we lose we will go down fighting, which is better than just losing.

Remember, Gore WON even with the inept campaign, the weak rebuttals, etc.

Bush is running on a record this time, which even he can't defend forcefully. Stern is against him, Cato isn't happy with him, there are a lot of people unhappy.

Not only isn't Kerry allowing the press to "gore" him, he has Dean, Clark, Edwards, Sharpton, to name just a few, fighting for us. It is going to be a slog, it won't be easy, but we have to fight hard and hopefully win. Democratunderground, talkingpoints, kos, all these places weren't here last time. This is the place to hone the debate, to find the weaknesses in arguments, to put together a winning message we can then take to our friends,families and doubters!

Together we can not only make a difference, we can win. This sounds dramatic, but I firmly believe, our WORLD depends on this, not just our country.

[dennis4868]

45. WELL SAID....

Indie_Voter

:-)

[Guaranteed]

26. For a couple weeks Kerry was on a roll, but the Repukes

have found a gold mine of spin in this Spain bombing and election. If Kerry doesn't find a way to separate the Iraq war and the war on terror, he's going to be destroyed, and very early in the campaign. He needs to address this now.

On edit: I mean NOW.

[Fleshdancer]

29. Unless Bush cheats, Kerry will win

and even if Bush cheats, certainly we progressives know enough hackers to make sure the diebold cheaters get neutralized, right? All we have to do is set all the electronic votes to "zero". Of course, I'm assuming that all the counties that don't have black box voting are predominately non republican, but I could be wrong.

30. Bush WILL Cheat, What WE have to do is different

We have 4 main objectives

1) We have to keep Kerry well financed
Without a warchest, its hopeless. Money may not buy happiness, but it sure as hell does buy advertising spots.

2) We have to bypass/route the Corporate News media info-train
Information is the gold dust of the hightech age. We need to access and distribute the wealth.

3) We have to have our most respected voices push the BBV story
We need to get the 100th monkey effect applied to BBV, and the way to do that is by tyaking great pains to ensure that the issuenever descends into the realm of paranoid rantings.

4) We have to GET OUT THE VOTE
If Kerry is not more than 10 points ahead of Bush, I predict that Bush will win in a squeaker. If not more than 5 points, Bush will win in a faux "landslide." We need to get everyone and their mamma to vote blue to take the cheat factor out of Bush's grasp.

[Eurobabe]

31. hey chicken little!!

did you ever hear about magnetizing situations?

[Padraig18]

33. Aren't you quite the little ray of sunshine????

:wtf:

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. Bush doesn't have a chance in hell

of winning. Not only do Democrats want him out, but so do MANY, MANY republicans and Independents. The man is HATED the WORLD over. He won't win. Kerry will win by such a huge margin that the RWers won't be able to steal it.

BTW, the republicans ARE liars and crooks. If the shoe fits, they should shut the fuck up. :evilgrin:

[redqueen]

38. You would be right, if it weren't for grassroots outreach

We can still do that, you know. We don't have to depend on corporate-owned media. If we DO sit back and allow them to run the show, then we very well may see a repeat of 2000, but something tells me that a great many Democrats will be more than willing to do more than just whine about unfiar media bias this time.

We also have a lot of work to do in raising awareness of the BBV issue. Priority one would be to GET KERRY TO CO-SPONSOR GRAHAM'S BILL AND GET HIM TO TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE STUMP TO HELP RAISE AWARENESS AND GET FEET ON THE GROUND HELPING TO GET THIS PASSED IN TIME!

[John_H]

39. YOU"RE RIGHT DAMMIT! I"M STAYING HOME.

Duh! Because even though we're ahead in polls and people are not stupid,I see no way we can beat chimp. You see, I am an idot.

[zulchzulu]

40. Yaaaahhh!!! The sky is falling!!!!!! Not...

Election Day is 233 days away.

Chin up and fight. It's not going to be easy. Do grassroots volunteering. Get involved.

I remember doing volunteer work for Kerry when some polls had him at 4%, below Sharpton and CMB. Screw it. Just keep moving. Keep doing.

Don't get scared of your shadow.

[rocktivity]

43. Formal action against the mainstream media is needed

There's no question that Bush has a compliant, unquestioning mainstream media behind him. Look at what they're doing with the Spanish elections, spinning it as the fall of a democracy to terrorism rather than the will of nine out of ten voters.

But during one of the marches in New York City last year, a group surrounded the news trucks and let the reporters have it. It would be nice to do that or a larger scale, like a boycott. But there's something you can do in the mean time--call them on it. When you hear a bogus story or obvious pro-Bush spin, don't just get annoyed--write a letter or send a e-mail and tell them you're on to them!

:headbang:
rocknation

[progressiverealist]

48. Bush will probably win. He has way too many advantages

not the least of which is the fact that he can out-spend Kerry ten or fifteen to one. Bush also has locked up the vote of about 95% of self-identifying Christians in this country.

This does NOT however mean one can aford to cry in one's beer and give up. There is still a chance- a reasonable one- that Kerry can stem the tide of our current Bush love-fest, as reflected in the latest NYT poll, and pull this thing out.

Where there is a chance, there is hope- so yes, I have hope.

[NoSunWithoutShadow]

49. I have hope.

I just heard this morning that my right wing brother-in-law in OHIO is voting for Kerry. I never, ever could have imagined that happening. And I've heard many, similar stories from my co-workers, like 'my mother Or my father-in-law isn't voting for * this time around".

Also, I don't think the mediawhores are going to be the 100% lap dogs for * as they were in 2000. I think some of them are as outraged as we are. I don't think they're all going to give * a pass this time around. I nearly fell out of my chair when Timmy Russert brought up the TANG and *'s AWOL status on MTP a few weeks ago. I think * is becoming a little unhinged.

I'm impressed with Kerry, he's a fighter. (I don't know why Gore didn't fight back harder.) Kerry's fighting back within hours of *'s attacks. But he has nowhere near the war chest that * has. Now is when he really needs the campaign donations. I don't think it's until the convention that the public financing kicks in. I live in Michigan and the ad wars on TV are incredible. They're on all the time.

I have hope and I also credit Dean with giving the dems a back bone. They got rid of their pink tutu's. I give all the candidates credit with the primary process, Kerry has come out fairly unscathed and I think that has Rove and company rattled. I smell a whiff of desperation. Good.