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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:04 PM
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John Kerry is a liar!!
That's the right wing mantra.

Heard it on Hannity driving home yesterday.

Heard it on Boortz driving to work this morning.

Heard it on Shnitt driving to get lunch.

And it's really pissing me off!!!!

They are spinning this "foreign leader non support" as a Kerry lie.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:07 PM
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1. Its about the only viable tactic they got
slime and defend.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:07 PM
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2. He'll nail them
timing is everything!

:kick:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:08 PM
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3. And when 544 American boys and girls
die because he said that the EU supports him, I will be almost as upset as I am about Bush*.

The only way to keep Dubya from lying is with a peice of duct tape.
Yeah Boortz and company, let's talk about politicians who lie... great idea!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:14 PM
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23. Bring on the duct tape!
I'm f'in sick of being lied to. I know I'm not alone.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:08 PM
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4. I wish we could call 'em up
and say "Look in the mirror, f***heads! There's the liars!":eyes:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:08 PM
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5. 'Let Me Stand Next To Your Liar !'
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 04:13 PM by WillyT
With apologies to Jimi Hendrix.

Hey beautiful, wanna come to S.F. and march and get waylaid by a bunch of Left Coast DUers??? Huh, do ya, do ya...???

:hi::loveya::hi:

Someday baby, someday...

:pals:

On edit: spulling... LOL
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:20 PM
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12. working on it, Doll
:hi:
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:08 PM
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6. to them kerry = gore
next thing you know, Kerry'll be the one saying he invented the internet.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:10 PM
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7. Don't listen the Hannity.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:04 PM
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29. I mean don't listen to Hannity.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 06:05 PM by MATTMAN
:crazy:

Damn Editing time was over.
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southpaw72 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:12 PM
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8. Boston Metro
had a op-ed piece pounding this worn out theme. Here's my response:

Dear Metro,

So let me get this straight: John Kerry is a pathological liar. And why? Oh yes, because he doesn't want to embarass the nation further by revealing which international leaders support him as opposed to President Bush.

George W. Bush lied about his service in the Texas Air National Guard. He lied about the "Mission Accomplished" sign. He shamelessly misused our own intelligence services to dupe the country, and the world, into a war that has already cost us billions of dollars and over 550 American lives, not to mention the lives of an uncounted number (literally, since the Pentagon refuses to keep track) of Iraqi civilians.

But Bush doesn't want us to think about such troubling facts. In fact, he doesn't want us to think at all. And thanks to simpering editorials like Mr. O'Brien's, we don't have to.


I cced the guy who wrote it, and actually got a nice response from him. Didn't back down, of course, but at least he was polite.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:12 PM
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9. "Shock and Maul" has begun!!
and they have already sunk to such a level that one shudders about where they'll go next.

on CNN the shills are bleating in unison:

KERRY WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES!!!!
KERRY VOTED AGAINST ARMOR FOR OUR SOLDIERS IN COMBAT!!!!
KERRY WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES!!!!
KERRY IS LYING
KERRY WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES!!!!
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:17 PM
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10. One good thing about this...
Hannity, Boortz, et al, are preaching to the Ditto Monkey Choir.

Was Kerry going to win them over anyway? The important thing is for Kerry (and us) to call "bullshit" when it's important and a little more mainstream...

(I know, I know... here comes that "meme" word.)
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:19 PM
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11. Andrea Mitchell told Imus what Kerry said is true and everyone knows it.
She may be off traveling with Powell now so hopefully she will fill him in. ( AS if he doesn't already know )
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:37 PM
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16. HA!
This tickles me to pieces.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:23 PM
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13. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
We're watching a drowning administration gasping it's last...

No worries.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:28 PM
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14. It's nothing but projection - standard RW tactic
They project their faults onto others, it must be a shitty way to live...but that's what they do.

One of their favorite attacks is to call us "emotional", not rational...yet that is exactly what angry white man radio is - nothing but emotional knee-jerkism...
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:34 PM
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15. This is only the beginning....for your own sanity...get used to it......
....after the way Al Gore was RUINED this way I completely and totally LOST my whole sense of reality for awhile....I refuse to allow it to happen to me again this year as it's gonna be BEYOND worse this time....just have to put it in perspective 'cos the MEDIA will make ya completely BONKERS!!! :hi: :pals:
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:41 PM
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17. Last time
When people sent me the supposed 50 Gore Lies, I just sighed and bit my tongue.

This time, I'm going to write back and say I think they've been misinformed and hit 'em with Bush's 100 lies (or hundred thousand lies, or whatever it's grown to by then).

I doubt it will change anybody's mind, but I hope it will make them think twice before they broadcast their garbage so widely and so easily again.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:47 PM
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18. I wish you the best of luck....when I've done that very thing.....
....it's just spewed back at me and called librul lies and propaganda...sad but true! :shrug:
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:00 PM
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21. There'd be some of that
But I just think you've gotta fight back.

I'm tired of rolling over, and I do know that their propaganda gets around to the not deeply politically involved.

I'm for trying to make them question whether they should send that crap to their whole address book.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:32 PM
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25. Oh I hear ya.....but in my own experience....it makes it worse.....
.....again...best o'luck to you...hope you get better results! :hi:
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:41 PM
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27. remember to always select "reply all"
when you rebut their garbage. usually they have sent it to a whole list of people besides you. the only bad thing is that they stop sending you their political crap because you made them look bad in front of their other winger friends. oh wait, maybe that's a good thing!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:53 PM
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19. Don't be surprised if they blame Kerry for 9-11 next.
Trust me, it's coming :eyes:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:54 PM
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20. where have you been???
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 04:55 PM by CatWoman
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:02 PM
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28. Nah, it's all Clinton's fault...
Maybe when Kerry becomes president, the neocons will still blame all of the country's problems on Clinton and his penis.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:09 PM
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22. This is to be expected. All Kerry has to do is point out the * lies
leading to nearly 600 American deaths in Iraq.

Kerry obviously didn't lie. We've been hearing about how unpopular * is around the world for years now. I would like some countries to come forward and publicly state their desire that Kerry win, though. This would deflate * smear tactics, plus make it clear that * is an international pariah.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:14 PM
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24. He IS a liar. He lied about the war, then he lied about his reason
for voting for the war. The Democrats can only claim that he is less of a liar than Bush. They've forsaken the ground from which they could claim that their candidate is not a liar.

If your panties get in a bunch about the claim that Kerry's a liar, come talk to me about it the day he says, "One of the main reasons we went into Iraq was because of OIL."
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 05:34 PM
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26. No, those who misrepresent Kerry's statements as lies, are the liars.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 05:36 PM by Feanorcurufinwe



For example, George Bush is a liar. He has repeatedly lied about what Kerry has said. Condi Rice is another liar who has made false statements about Kerry's position. Ed Gillespie - liar. Marc Racicot - liar.

The list goes on and on.

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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:22 PM
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30. Can't they come up with
something more creative? That's what they said about Gore in 2000:

"serial liar." Looks like they could come up with something besides sex and lies. :boring:
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Simard Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 08:25 PM
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31. ALL Dem's must fight back
Kerry has been slow to strongly defend himself against these attacks. The Bush people are trying to define Kerry as a weak foreign appeaser. Kerry needs to to stand firm on this issue.

It is, however, plainly true that there is major opposition to the Bush administration throughout the world and that many foreign leaders would rather have someone else in the White house. Poll after poll, even before the war in Iraq, has confirmed this. Unfortunately the political opportunists in the Bush administration are putting Kerry on the hot seat by calling on him to name exactly what foreign leaders told him this. This is an absolutely disingenuous tactic. Kerry will never name who these leaders are. When someone gives you information in confidence, as these leaders did with Kerry, you do not reveal them. When Kerry is elected the fact that he did not reveal their names will be a credit to his. It will bring him support with these foreign leaders for not betraying their confidence and it will portray him as a man of integrity.

That being said Kerry needs to come up with an effective response to these accusations. Cheney is apparently going to make a speech tomorrow afternoon that "tears Kerry apart on national security and foreign policy." (NBC) Kerry and his advisor's as well and all democrats need to stand strong and respond quickly and effectively to this speech. For many Americans not involved in the primary process this is the first they will see of Kerry. First impressions matter. Kerry need to make his own first impression or Bush will do it for him.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 10:21 PM
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32. They talked about this on Tweety tonite
and Andrea Mitchell says she can imagine that the Dems and Kerry will provide a rapid response to Cheney's bullshit.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 11:04 PM
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33. The networks will probably carry the right wing campaign speeches live
And totally ignore Democrats.

The media is so far right in America. Something needs to be done, fast.
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