Democrats: So Out Of Touch They Need A Republican On The Ticket (McCain)

[KittyWampus]

Remember during the Primary debates, when moderators asked loaded questions about how the Democrats are so out of touch with the American public?

So how would having McCain on the ticket be able to withstand such attacks?

If McCain is so "Principled" why is he campaigning for Bush?

How the hell could Democrats support a VP who is actively campaigning for Bush NOW?

There is something awfully disconcerting hearing so many on this forum considering such a concept in a serious manner.

Ironically, Wesley Clark is STILL being tagged a Republican by some.

[Jack_Dawson]

1. How are DEMS out of touch?

:freak:

[KittyWampus]

2. The Moderators Cited Polls IIRC

[liberalnurse]

8. Listen to yourself.......

Democrats don't run a with a republican.......hey, we are democrats!

[Warpy]

13. McCain is a far right wingnut

..on most of the issues. Like most demogogues, he considers his own viewpoint the only valid one. We need to listen to him about this, if only for a demonstration of why he's unfit to be on the ticket, even though it would be hilarous to watch the Chickenhawk Brigade go up against not one but two genuine war heroes. He'd dearly love to be on the ticket, just to pay back the bastard king's minions for what they did to him in South Carolina.

A Democrat he aint, though. Kerry will energize the party base, if he's smart and sticks to issues. McCain will discourage it.

[Mick Knox]

3. Pretty Fkn Sad aint it?

Even some people I would consider well-thought out people on many issues.. just get all giddy over the idea.. They can't even see all McCain is doing is selling his new book by getting press.. but I guess some of the best of us swallow it Hook line and sinker at times...

[Westegg]

4. Hell, McCain said it best...

"Why would they even want me?" Or words to that effect. His platform and the Dem platform are hardly parallel. It'll never happen.

[Melodybe]

5. Bull, I don't trust Mc Cain

he is as two tongued as it gets.

I want Edwards or Clark for VP.

[tinanator]

9. perfect match, although Kerry is hard to beat for mealy mouthed doubletalk

I think a McCain VP would be the perfect death stroke. But then I dont see any wings on Kerry.

[daveskilt]

6. perhaps a reasonable repub in the cabinet somewhere?

You know like bush the great uniter said he would do with a democrat after losing the popular vote. He didnt even use zell miller as his psuedo token dem.

[ramapo]

10. Norman Minetta

Clinton holdover serving as Secretary of Transportation, the token Democrat.

[stepnw1f]

7. Democrats Have Been Smeared For Too Long

The problem is, the party never had the funding to polish their own persona, like the Repukes. I mean look... when has liberal become a bad term and why? From the right and the media.

Liberals have been fighting against injustice for a long time, and powers to be have been denigrating anyone who stood in their way, with lies! Now people are scratching their heads wondering what went wrong in the last three years... I just tell people, 'Republicans run the show. They run the House, Senate and Judiciary. Even now they are blaming the Dems, and calling Liberals, 'radical'.

They have no one to blame really, but that won't stop them for trying. So we fight back, with the truth.

The Bush family has reaped the benefits of war profiteering since WWII. His grand father was selling weapons to the Nazis while Americans were fighting them. Of course America stepped in and did something about. Unfortunately they still made allot of money, and that has translated into a legacy.

I believe that legacy should not be separate from his grandfathers Nazi sympathizing. Tell people this, and show them the facts. This family is the most corrupt family I have ever read about in modern history, and boy what an impact they have had on Democracy, civil rights and the world around them.

It's time they pay for their crimes!

[AntiCoup2K4]

11. If the DLC is going to keep Republican PNAC's foreign policy

then why would a Republican VP be a shock to anyone?

Newsflash: THE DLC ARE REPUBLICANS!!

Maybe 4 more years of this fucking fascist bullshit (regardless of who wins) will finally be enough to drive that reality home.

But I doubt it :(

[Bombtrack]

16. "the dlc are republicans" is as dumb as saying that moderate republicans

are democrats.

[redqueen]

12. Good question

He may very well be principled, but his priorities are out of line with ours, or he wouldn't be campaigning for bush.

As for how Democrats support this... look at the DLC. Think they've helped to push us far enough to the right yet?

[BootinUp]

14. There are things to like/admire

about Sen. McCain. But as I have said many times we do not need him on the ticket and one step away from the Presidency. There are other things that can be done in the GE to reach out as it where to moderates/independents, and other VP candidates to do it.

[tinanator]

18. I dont like or admire anything about McCain

just another S&L enabler/bank robber. But in terms of cutting off Bush's legs (such as they are), and bridging the partisan poisoning of the electorate you couldnt ask for more. Besides, Im not in denial about the realities of bipartisanship. If youre gonna embrace ABB, rare back!
RIP Bill.

[Bombtrack]

15. How is your argument any different than sort of what people who don't

want Clark to be vp are saying. "democrats are so soft on defense they need 2 Vietnam veterans".

I don't think Kerry is going to pick McCain. But if he did, we'd probably win comfortably. It's not like we have to nominate him in 8 years. he'll be too old by then.

[RichM]

17. I agree with you here. The McCain phenomenon shows how ignorant,

pathetic, desperate, & lacking in any real political analysis many Democrats are.

McCain is a rightwinger to the core, and a warmonger. But many Democrats are fooled by him, just because he has a telegenic personality.

It's similar to the Colin Powell phenomenon, where many Democrats believe the much-circulated lie that Powell is fundamentally different from the other fascists in the cabal. (In fact, Clark also showed he shared this delusion about Powell during a Sunday talk show appearance - I think it was MTP.) Does Powell have a telegenic personality? Yes. Is he much different from Rummy, Cheney, et al, in terms of core ideas? No.

The long & short of it is -- scratch the surface of most Democrats, and you'll find a whole host of Republican ideas, premises, and assumptions. This VERY PHENOMENON on DU that you're pointing to shows that there isn't much difference between the parties (as I've long maintained).