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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:15 PM Original message |
I am still pissed how the media blocked Edwards |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Iowans blocked Edwards |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Not really. He was in second place, ahead of the national frontrunner at that time. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That too |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Ultimately that became the case after the msm designated Obama as the front runner's sole challenger |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. None of which has anything to do with the media |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. You don't believe the msm influences fund raising? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Yes, but results and reality influence donors far more |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
98. And where do people get their notions "reality" and "results" from? The MSM. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. The media had everything to do with it |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 06:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
113. The media picked the candidates & made Edwards invisible. It was DISGUSTING to watch. |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #113 |
120. The media had everything to do with it! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. He was essentially tied with HRC and 8 points behind Obama |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. At one point he reached the 20's (or at least 19% in aggregate polling) |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
66. He was in a statistical tie with Clinton- .25% separated them. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
108. The lack of news coverage from his SECOND PLACE WIN |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The msm blocked him |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. It pisses me off, as well. The Corporate Media is running things. |
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TheZug (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. The media are what they are |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. That's one of the most ignorant things I have read |
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TheZug (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. Well, sorry |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #65 |
99. The media didn't bury him because he didn't have a good campaign. |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:43 AM Response to Reply #65 |
112. But a) they did and b) they're *way* too centralized |
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casus belli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. You have to consider who he was rallying against.... |
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yy4me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. This race was not about the best person for the job, it was about |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. I agree. And Edwards wasn't the horse race they wnated to cover. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. "They can screw this country without my vote." |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
63. You know, I feel the same way.... |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #63 |
103. Oh please... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #103 |
110. You are abysmally ignorant. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
73. Exactly how I felt about Edwards |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:02 AM Response to Reply #73 |
111. and your opinion is not really worth much. I am so glad to see you |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #111 |
122. Thanks saracat..................... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
93. Edwards lost in 2004 and there were no blacks or women in viable races |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
14. CNN had to rush Suzanne Malveaux to NOLA when Edwards suspended his campaign. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. And how many races had he won? |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. So, corporate profits dictated covering only 2 in a 3 person race? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
19. If your only support in a Democratic primary comes from white men, you are in big trouble |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Got any proof of your statements other than what came out of the media ? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
119. You mean besides his vote totals? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
101. That's such a crock of shit media-invented bullshit. He had a large LGBT base. |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. And how much of the total voting base did they make up? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #101 |
118. LGBT voters don't help you in Iowa, NH, and SC |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
20. Ego tripping |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Man are you way out there in the ether . |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
22. As well you should be. They completely ignored him. nt |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. with a title as Mookie you have done me a favor |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. What I want is for Edwards to write a book about who were the powers that be |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I'd like to see that book too! |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. sign me up for that book as well!! eom |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. And I don't have to quess who they were...I know... |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
76. I want to know that too! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
84. They're a secret, little-understood cabal |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
24. It's all about the M$M, $$$s and dazzle (celeb/big name endorsements, etc.) |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
25. The media has indeed once again chosen our leaders |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I am done with all of this. It is revolting. |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
28. Imagine being a Biden fan... |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
29. The horse race mentality of the media beat Edwards |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
30. Wait until the darkness is turned on Obama in the GE... |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. And it will be bad for him... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. plus he and his minions have alienated many in the dem base. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
38. I agree and disagree all at the same time. Edwards did not have to drop out when he |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
40. The corporate (like G.E.) owned media assassinated the Edwards campaign. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
77. You are right on! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
41. Remember, they did it to Kucinich first |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
42. "The damn media has to be broken to pieces and rebuilt" |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Knock back the corporate monopolies,regulate, demand that our |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
69. so you would have the government tell the "media" what to broadcast or print? |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. No, but they should be regulating the corporations that own the media. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. I'm happier with a press free of government control. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. put the airwaves back into the hands of the people |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. I'm curious -- when was it different? |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. That's true |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. That's exactly right. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. The lady that owned it died and things changed , I can't recall her name right now |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #94 |
104. you are rather confused, I think |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. It was never as good as you think . |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
43. The corpmedia did it to Gore, Kerry and Dean, too. Edwards was another to ADD to the list |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. And Obama and Hillary are next. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Less likely since most people now distrust corpmedia at this point. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
46. They are doing it to Hillary too. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. They aren't ignoring Hillary. They just are turning on her. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
47. Geezus, I thought the Edwards crybabies had reached the acceptance stage |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Pretty boy Edwards? I see assholes are still on the loose. |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. How did you escape? |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Well it's pretty obvious that McCain fits into the machine just nicely. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. And what about Huckabee, he has made a promise that |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Why are you comparing Edwards' campaign to the campaigns of Repugnicans? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
88. Which is it, the party bosses or the corporate media? nt |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Both are owned by the corporations. |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Bullshit it wasn't the voters...it was the powers of the democratic party. |
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COFoothills (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
49. Give me a break... |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
51. Me to brother....... |
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BigDaddy44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
87. Who would he sue? |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. There was talk several weeks ago, I believe a writer journalist from the Times. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
55. Please remember that the MSM is pretty much owned |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
60. This happens every time - the media picks the candidate based on PERSONALITY |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
61. Give It Time. You'll Get Over It. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. I doubt it unless the world blows up , this will once again |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
64. The media was forced to cover Huckabee |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
90. Well Edwards would not stoop that low . That was one of the things I |
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rjx (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
67. To put it bluntly |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
70. You do realise that the US media are now all owned by just a handful of conglomerates, and... |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. absolutely . |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #70 |
106. that's not exactly true |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #106 |
114. I think it's a lot more blatant, though, today, and of course, the press/media... |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
71. Obama didn't get much coverage either until he out-raised Hillary one quarter. |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Obama got his boost in Iowa by Oprah , she is the media . |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #75 |
115. Excellent. "Oprah IS the media". She embodies it. |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
80. I'm with you |
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BigDaddy44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
85. Interesting discussion |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Well for one thing to at least make a start |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
86. the corporate media annointed HRC and Obama |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
91. It is totally despicable. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
92. Every time I see his name and or mention of him I feel the same, |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
96. Computer-generated news anchors? |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
100. They did the same thing to Clark the last time around - never mentioned him. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
102. Edwards lost badly, he should have quit when Biden, Dodd and Richardson did |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
107. Just sayin'... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #107 |
117. This chart is interesting, but not particularly instructive |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
109. me too!!!! |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
116. And I'm pissed how people then just flock to the next choice instead of being outraged |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:05 AM Response to Reply #116 |
124. And where do you put your "outraged" vote? |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
121. All candidates |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
123. When did all this first dawn on you? |
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