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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:17 PM Original message |
You are witnessing the worst run campaign in modern history in its death throes in slow motion |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. It Really Is Pathetic |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Imagine if this crew was running in 2004 against Bush and Rove at their strongest point. |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
75. I think the person that posted this should go to the republican party |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Worst run campaign? I think that's McStain... |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It's part of the Unity campaign to piss on the Clintons. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Primer for how Clinton's Supporters argue: |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 03:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
55. That sums it up quite well i'd say. |
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Mme. Defarge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
74. Heads I win, |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. How are the NAFTA and China free trade deals doing for your town? |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. Correction: It was a cigar tube. Not the actual cigar. |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:30 PM Original message |
Whoa there! you comparing Obama to the vile Unity '08 brigade? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Obama shall make quick work of squashing McCain't...that's another story |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I spend damn near every waking moment watching this nomination thingie. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Obama has never faced a Republican |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Well, he kinda/sorta did. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. The GOP had their sights on forcing the popular fmr Governor Jim Edgar into the race. |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. You nailed it. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. He's doing just fine against Clinton |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Hillary's campaign hasn't been anywhere near as bad as Rove or Atwater. That's silly. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. What makes her campaign worse than Rove or Atwater is... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Many Dems don't even realize GHWBush WANTED to lose in 92 because he expected |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. Excellent post, and precisely on point. K & R. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. You sound rather jealous? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
67. Please take that sexist bullshit somewhere else |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hillary and her campaign is running on fumes. |
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Mendocino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. $60 Million spent-one delegate. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Rudy really stunk. GHWBush's 92 campaign was actually worst GE - but he wanted to lose |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
52. right about ghwb. if ever a candidate was "throwing" the race, that was it |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. That 'loss' also made Bill look to be some sort of Dem 'Savior' when he actually ended up |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. can't quite agree with you on that part |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I can. Deep-sixing BCCI's outstanding matters throughout the 90s protected BushInc. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. not sure how far prosecutions would have gotten with those last-minute ghwb pardons.... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Those were IranContra pardons - BCCI had MAJOR matters that eclipsed IranContra |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
15. As it turns out, she ain't all that after all. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. There are dozens of worse-run campaigns than this one. |
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DUyellow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. come on now, if she losses this one... it will be the worst |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. Ed Muskie, Hubert Humphry, John Kerry, Mike Dukakis, Bob Dole, Bush Sr... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I recently talked to a guy who was a Muskie fan |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I'll give you Bush Sr and Bob Dole and possibly Dukakis, but not the others |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Muskie cried on a bandstand in NH. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. None of them started with the advantages Hillary had going in, either. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Hillary started at the 50 yard mark in a 100 yard dash... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. Kerry won. RNC stole it for Bush and McAuliffe's DNC let them do it. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 03:16 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. I don't think so... I seriously think Kerry lost. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Well, I think there is considerable evidence that election was stolen. And Carville helped. |
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texas_indy (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. I agree with you. (nt) |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. If you say it enought times. . . . .it still isn't true. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. Say what enough times? That Hillary will somehow win? You're right, it still isn't true. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
23. No. Kerry. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Kerry beat Bush - DNC run by Terry McAuliffe let the RNC steal it. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. That's very selective. Let me help you. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Baloney. Had McAuliffe secured election process Kerry would have had his votes counted. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 04:15 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Its all everyone else's fault? The media MADE Kerry look and sound stupid?? C'mon... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. In any democracy 5% should be enough to not be stolen. DNC had a job after 2000s |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Oh quit blaming McAuliffe |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Clinton was DEFENDING Bush on that phony war, taking the 'phony' out of the debate since |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. And did ANY nominee EVER HAVE the last Dem president defending the GOP president |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
24. The Agonal Respirations of a Dying Campaign. Make it a DNR, please. |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
25. The worst run campaign in history? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
26. Nah, not the worst. It does remind me of Kerry Healey's campaign here in Mass in '06 though. |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
28. Yep! |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
30. hyperbole much? |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
31. HRC campaign |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. GHWBush NEEDED to lose in 1992. He expected to be impeached after the BCCI report had |
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Darth_Kitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
35. Blind hero worship should be beyond the scope of rational adults, eh? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. Never mind. That even a blind pig can see how self destructive |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
38. I don't think it's the worst run campaign. She ran into a superior candidate. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
43. It's no wonder Hillary got schooled in Wisconsin from her deceptive mailers |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
46. Actually it did get her free press time |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. The problem is now her mailers will be under scrutiny...and that's not good |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
48. Not possible. Even in this election season, alone, we've seen at least 3 worse campaigns... |
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Unbowed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
50. When the talking heads come back to work on Monday, it isn't going to be pretty. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. I'm sure Hillary will say more crap today to give the full effect n/t |
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Unbowed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. That would be pretty damn stupid. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
51. Not a poorly run campaign. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
59. I have never seen a truer post. K&R. |
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