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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:13 AM
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Poll question: Veep Poll without Clark
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 11:13 AM by JohnLocke
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:19 AM
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1. problematic as it is - mccain
ONLY because I know so many republicans who would vote dem if and only if mccain was on the ticket. hell my marine corp mother in law would vote dem for the first time in her life if it was mccain on the ticket. Of course whether this is really a dem ticket is another question but I would rather a real rational normal republican was pres than bush who is not republican - he is way past that.

first choice for me is clark obviously.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:27 AM
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4. Sorry...I'd be lying if I took this poll and you know
what happened to Bill Clinton when he lied.
This sounds like a push poll to me!

Re: McCain...my husband would like that too. But why do we need a Rep. when we can win the election with a Democrat? Who needs them.
"Yes", Mccain would bring in a lot of Reps. but more Nadeer and far left Liberals would be lost.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:44 AM
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14. good points - I would just like to not worry for 8 months
and mccain would win a lot of untouchable repub states...midwestern and western states that vote straight repub but loved mccain more than bush.

but you are right. clark is the guy and who needs to compromise even more than we already are?
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:52 AM
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17. Irrelevant poll
Without Clark as a choice, I don't see what purpose it serves.

These polls don't have much purpose anyway, except reflect the opinions of what DU'ers think, and then only active DU'ers, and then only active DU'ers who choose to participate. So what's the point with this one? Except maybe to insult the Clark supporters.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:45 PM
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22. i think this was in response to a request from another poll
which did include clark. the idea was he would win among Duers hands down and someone asked who would Du'ers go for if not clark hence this poll.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:05 PM
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42. He'd probably carry his home state...
But the dem backlash would be huge.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:22 AM
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2. DURBIN or
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 11:23 AM by LincolnMcGrath
VILSACK


on edit:


P.S. Fuck McCain!
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:25 AM
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3. Other = Ann Richards
see other poll for reasons
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jay-3d Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:29 AM
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5. test
test
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:30 AM
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6. Hello! Welcome to DU! n/t
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jay-3d Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:30 AM
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7. how do I post my state icon with a message
how do I post my state icon with a message
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:32 AM
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8. Do this
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 11:32 AM by democratreformed
Click on options at the top of one of the main forum pages. Click on edit your profile. Upload an avatar.

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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:32 AM
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9. He can't; he's not a donor
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:33 AM
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10. Oh
I thought I used one of the board's avatars before I was a donor.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:37 AM
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12. me too
?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 10:55 AM
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45. Hi jay-3d!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:37 AM
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11. What about Ed Rendell...
Governor of Pennsylvania? He has been mentioned more than once and I think he would be an excellent choice. He is a moderate from an important swing state with a lot of electoral votes, which has been leaning Bush for the upcoming election. He is Jewish, so he would carry some of the "Lieberman" factor from the 2000 election (helping in Florida). We can win without the south, and losing Edwards or any other Senator who would be replaced with a Republican, would put us even further behind in the Congress.
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:38 AM
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13. Edwards says he ain't runnin for Senate
?
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:46 AM
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15. we can do without the south - not just in the election just generally
I can dream.
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DaisyUCSB Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:22 PM
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20. That is so demonsterably intolerant.The country can do without people like
you.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:38 PM
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21. check my profile - where do I live?
in the south with many many people I like very much who are southern. dont get yer knickers in a twist. If only there was an icon for toungue in cheek I could have used....
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FreeSpeechCrusader Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:58 PM
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23. I enjoy where i live in the south...
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 12:59 PM by FreeSpeechCrusader
some parts are terrible, but others are quite nice and tolerant.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:03 PM
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24. Once more i must confess my guilt - I was wrong.
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 01:03 PM by daveskilt
after 3 years in georgia i am stunned to live where desegregation is still an issue.

but yes much of the south is lovely and so are many of its occupants.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:49 AM
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16. Voted Edwards n/t
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:06 PM
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18. Max Cleland
If presented right, he will appeal to males between 40-60 years old throughout the South and Mid-West, a 'key' demographic in this election.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:07 PM
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19. Other. n/t
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:46 PM
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25. Edwards.
:kick:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:48 PM
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26. where the heck are all the 'McCain' votes coming from?
:wtf:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:18 PM
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27. Where is Phil Bredesen?
How can he be left off? If they are looking for a GOvernor. I would think a guy who balanced a budget that was in shambles would be up their. The guy is an economic genius
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:21 PM
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28. The same could be said for Gov. Mark Warner.
The problem is that there are only 10 spaces in a poll.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:51 PM
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38. Probably from a republican board...since he is a republican
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 03:08 PM
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29. Edwards.
n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 04:48 PM
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30. as I said in the other Veep poll... Graham = Florida = Election
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 04:53 PM
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32. And as I said, if that's so...
... then why did exit polling of FL voters indicate that they preferred Edwards over Graham for VP by a 5:2 margin? :shrug:
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 06:15 PM
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36. Because of a couple of reasons, such as people having short memories
and democratic primary voters by a huge margin not being the best judges of exactly what factors go into electability. These people got convinced that Kerry was the most electable, more than Edwards or Clark, basically because he won Iowa and New Hampshire. And that is insane logic.

Also, about a 5th of all Florida primary voters voted for Edwards FOR PRESIDENTIAL nominee in the Florida primry, and more would have had Kerry not still been the nominee.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 04:49 PM
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31. Which Nelson is which?
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:06 PM
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43. Bill of Florida.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 11:22 PM
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44. So , is he the first one listed
or the second one?
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 04:54 PM
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33. Clark is not listed because...
:freak:
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 05:43 PM
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34. BECAUSE HE WOULD WIN ....... AND THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!
LOL couldn't resist myself.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 05:49 PM
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35. LOL
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:30 PM
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37. I think others in another thread were interested in seeing
how support would break down if Clark were not a choice.

Some of you guys seem so hypersensitive... Not everything is an insult to Wesley Clark.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 07:52 PM
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39. McCain???
:wtf:
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Duder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:15 PM
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40. Gallup: 30% of Dems want Edwards for veep -
Dean, Clinton, Clark, Gore, Gephardt, each get less than 5%.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:02 PM
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41. This is a pretty silly exercize!
We can't list Clark because he will win.

Huh?????

Charlie Manson said, "No sense makes sense."
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