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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 01:53 PM
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“Opting Out” Undermines Core Democratic Values (GD-P Edition)
Most core Republican Party special interests, with a partial exception for some elements of the Religious Right, essentially believe in Social Darwinism. They heap high praise on “The Individual” because they usually are, as individuals, heaped high with special privileges. If not they are wealth groupie wannabes. Which is why Mike Huckabee meets with such disdain from the Republican establishment – he sometimes gives a nod toward right wing populism. The Republican establishment prefers an ideological argument that supports “every man for himself”, since the members of their establishment start out with big advantages in that scenario. Even IF “a rising tide lifts all boats”, the boatless eventually drown, but that is not a yacht owners problem, in a sink or swim world.

The living core of the Democratic Party though celebrates the common good, and our common humanity. It is the Democratic Party that strung America’s social safety net to keep the less fortunate among us from falling through prosperity’s cracks to shatter on the rocks below. And the Republican Party has never ceased their efforts to cut widening hole in that social safety net, stealing the twine that protects the least of us to tie down their own high privileges.

The “Opting Out” option is the knife the Right wields when they try to cut up social safety nets. The “Opting Out” option is how they hobbled the ability of Organized Labor to organize workers to effectively counter the concentrated power of mega capital interests. They call it “Right to Work” legislation. The “Opting Out” option is the battering ram they are using to bring about the collapse of public education in this nation. They call it “School Vouchers”. The “Opting Out” option is their plot to divert multi billions of dollars that our government saves for all citizens for retirement into capital “investments” to fund the growth of their multinational corporate empires. They call it privatization of social security.

“Opting Out” is divide and conquer. We need the unity of many to oppose the power of a few. Once that simple solidarity is compromised, the peeling off of the support necessary to guarantee the basic rights and needs of all starts. Siren calls to narrow short term personal interests pierce and tantalize while less immediate appeals to the long term common good don’t get past call screening.

The privileged in America advance their interests through “cherry picking. Those advantaged enough to send children to private schools want their school taxes back to enrich private schools with extra curricular activities, while those who can’t afford private schools, or whose children aren’t deemed acceptable enough by private schools, remain in public schools unable to update their text books with modern curriculum.

No where is cherry picking more obvious than in the insurance industry. The less inclusive insurance providers must be, the more profitable insurance providers will be. Create a system that does not insure that all will be provided insurance, and the games begin to game that system for all the insurance providers. But even leaving “cherry picking” aside, the economy of scale always requires that our social safety nets be supported by the inclusion of all of our citizens, or they will be bled dry caring for the needs of those dependent most upon them, who have no other options, while those who are blessed with other options are independent enough not to care. And then that net grows tattered, and then that net fails.

Like with Social Security, like with Public Schools; affordable Universal Health Care will never be universal AND affordable until we mandate that health care be affordable AND universal. “Opting In” is a core Democratic principle. The people united will never be defeated. Or, harkening back to yet an earlier generation possessed with revolutionary fervor; United we stand, divided we fall.

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:05 PM
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1. I think Hillary has a firmer grasp on this
It is one way in which I think she is running to the left of Obama.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:25 PM
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7. I concur
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:12 PM
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2. Solidarity
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 02:12 PM by mohc
Along with civil liberty, solidarity is one of the fundamental tenets of liberalism. Many on the left cringe at the sound of the word, it reminds them too much of another "S" word. Standing together, collectively, is the only way the common man stands a chance against corporate special interests. Largely this is just a battle of perception. We have come to a point where few question public education, and social security privatization never caught on the way the right had hoped. And one day the same will be true with health care. We must stand together and fight to make it universal.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:19 PM
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3. I can't believe that I never mentioned Solidarity once in that OP
Exactly right. It is always the most fundemental way we have to stand up against powerful monied interests.
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mohc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:23 PM
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5. Well as I said
This is a battle of perception, so omitting the word "solidarity" might actually be a good idea. You presented the argument very effectively, making the case for solidarity without using the word. Here on DU I doubt the word would have quite the connotation it would take on in the world of punditry influenced media, so I guess it depends on your audience.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:25 PM
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6. Good point
In fact that is actually why I paired the slogan "The People united will never be defeated" with "United we stand, divided we fall".
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:29 PM
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8. Heh, I just realized that I did manage to slip "solidarity" into the OP
but it was a soft usage of the concept:
"Once that simple solidarity is compromised..."
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:22 PM
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4. And THIS is precisely why
"Shame On You, Barack Obama" was and is appropriate.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:26 PM
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11. People act like she was only angry at being misquoted or something
This is something she has been fighting for most of her adult life
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 02:34 PM
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9. recommend
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:01 PM
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10. Thanks. I figure this has just a small window of opportunity to be read...
...before the debate begins. Thanks for giving it a push!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 04:53 PM
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13. no problem -- it's something i believe in.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:31 PM
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12. K&R!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 05:44 PM
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14. Not so many comments but a good number of "R"s for a thread not getting kicked much...
Thank you.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 07:04 PM
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15. Its a terrific thread Tom.
Glad you decided to post on this.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:17 PM
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16. Let's see if anyone talks about "core Democratic values" in the debate
I give two to one odds Hillary will use the phrase, tree to two odds that Obama doesn't. And yes I konw that I am only talking about words, even if they do have power, lol. No doubt both talk about some core Democratic values all the time.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:48 PM
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22. I think the 'common" good has unfortuately, gotton shafted by many.
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:36 PM
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17. Great post! You identify a consistent pattern...
...and show how the common good is undermined and cleverly eroded.

“Opting Out” is divide and conquer.

Indeed. I had never it in such clear terms, but that's exactly right.

Bookmarking.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 11:50 PM
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18. very well said
this is why I still come to DU....
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:32 PM
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19. kick
for those that missed it last night.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:40 PM
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20. You are right -- But both Obama and Clinton are wimping out on it
Obama is not proposing that people can opt-out of something that already exists, like public education or Social Security.

He is proposing something new, and leaving out the politically poisoned pill of mandates.

Personally I think both of them are wimping out. The real answer in the spirit of your post would be single-payer public Universal Health Care along the lines of an expansion of Medicare.

It would be simpler, it would put everyone from young and healthy to old and ailing into a common risk pool, which would be the true spirit of a social safety net.

But until the Democratic Party gets the testicular fortitude to undertake something like that, the approach of Hillary and Obama ought to at least start by keeping it optional to remove one of what will be a core objection by the public.



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:45 PM
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21. Regarding Univ. health care (HRC)---many do NOT see the "common good"--instead
they rant against the mandates---saying it is their personal choice---which is a very REPUG value!


The living core of the Democratic Party though celebrates the common good, and our common humanity. It is the Democratic Party that strung America’s social safety net to keep the less fortunate among us from falling through prosperity’s cracks to shatter on the rocks below. And the Republican Party has never ceased their efforts to cut widening hole in that social safety net, stealing the twine that protects the least of us to tie down their own high privileges.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:50 PM
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23. Then let's have a real single payer and not this mandatory insurance bullshit
As one of those "deadbeats", I shudder to think about how this mandate will shaft me, considering that I'm single and have no children. According to the state of Arizona, I can afford health insurance if I make $850 a month.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 12:53 PM
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24. Thanks Tom!
K&R
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:44 PM
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25. My final kick on this, because...
...I am about to leave on a road work trip. I'll be very scarce around here untill Sunday night at the earliest - I don't want anyone to think I'm avoiding this place.

Please don't blow it up while I'm gone.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 01:54 PM
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26. Thanks.
Very clear thinking!
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 02:26 AM
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27. Excellent post. Wish I could recommend it, but I'm too late... but I'm bookmarking it! nt
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 02:43 AM
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28. If the "opting in" were for a true single payer system and not some insurance boondoggle
You'd have a point. As it is, you are trying to tell me that I (single childless person) should pay big bucks for a full premium for some bullshit catastrophic "coverage" from insurance company shysters, so that people with kids can get subsidies to funnel money to the same.

Fuck. That. Shit.

I don't mind paying extra taxes for a non-profit system that covers everyone, but I will be goddamned before I'll hand over wads of my hard-earned cash so that Humana execs can buy more yachts and planes, while trying every way to deny me the coverage that I paid for.

Seriously.

Fuck. That. Shit.

And don't tell me "Oh, but, but, there will be a government plan that competes with the private carriers!" The hell there will. The powerful insurance lobby will NOT LET THAT HAPPEN! The mandates will stay while the government plan will be for the poor, the elderly, and the uninsurable only. Everyone else will be forced to buy private insurance. And people like me, with no kids and self-employed, will pay through the freaking nose.

Fuck. That. Shit.

Look at what's going on in MA. People are paying the fines, rather than the premiums for MittCare.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 05:49 AM
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29. SOLIDARITY with the Insurance Execs!!!!
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 05:52 AM by Leopolds Ghost
You can't just get away with NOT buying a soda for your school lunch.

Every kid must bring lunch money for either a Coke or Pepsi product --
or a government sponsored poorly-preserved dairy product, if they wish.
Their choice.

UNIFORMITY OF OUTCOME, NOT UNIVERSALITY OF OPPORTUNITY!

Comrade, don't tell ME that you choose to save money and bring a bag lunch!

You must buy cake from a list of registered for-profit cake dealers!

Only then will the rest of us save money on cake and thereby raise
the standard of living for the MAJORITY!

I recommend Victory Gin!

That form of Solidarity is the HEART AND SOUL OF THE LEFT!!! :sarcasm:

Did I mention that the "Dukakis Mandate" plan was created as an
alternative to the long-sought goal of single-payer by New Deal
dems, and resurrected by an INSURANCE INDUSTRY THINK TANK, who
sold both Edwards and Clinton on a fully-formed proposal? I remember
their original press release, they talked about it in the newspapers...

"Insurance companies now advocating for health care reform" etc. etc.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:16 AM
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30. No shit. Is this fascism or what?
I don't get why people don't see it. Or maybe I do. Most of the people supporting Hillary's plan either have insurance through their jobs and have no idea how much it costs or they have children and know that theirs will be subsidized on the backs of non-parents.
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