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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:08 PM
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Texas Primary: Four Trends, All to Obama's Advantage
Texas Primary: Four Trends, All to Obama's Advantage
Clinton, Obama, and Texas


Photo Illustration: Everett Bogue; Photos: Getty Images

With less than a week to go before the next round of Democratic primaries, Texas is the state to watch. It’s big, it’s critically important, it’s a dead heat (Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are separated by an average of 1.2 points in the most recent polls). And, because its delegate-selection process is governed by wacky, convoluted rules that hardly anybody fully understands, it’s ripe for projections based on our special insights. Here, then, are four trends to watch — and what they mean for your favorite candidate.

The Latino Vote Could Split

What’s left of the Democratic machine in Texas is now concentrated in the heavily Mexican-American Rio Grande Valley, and Clinton has made the border a second home as she tries to amp up her support among Latinos. But guess what: There are many different Latino communities in Texas. Mexican-Americans along the border have benefited from NAFTA and are indeed showing strong loyalty to Clinton. But urban Latinos — there are now more Hispanics in the city of Houston than in the entire Rio Grande Valley — are younger and more susceptible to Obama’s appeal. Voting patterns in other states have also shown that Latinos who have been in the U.S. for multiple generations were more influenced by favorable coverage of Obama in English-language media and Ted Kennedy’s endorsement. It’s the newer immigrants who were more likely to support Clinton. Odds are that overall, Latinos will divide as they did in New Mexico, where they broke about 61-36 percent for Clinton, instead of giving her the monolithic support she is seeking.

Blacks and Students Will Generate More Delegates Than Latinos

Obama is harvesting from richer fields than Clinton, and he has the state party to thank. Next Tuesday’s primary will allocate 126 delegates, but not according to the candidates’ statewide support. Instead, they will be awarded in each of Texas’ 31 State Senate districts. (Complicating things further, not all of those districts will award the same number of delegates: Some have as few as three, while others have as many as eight, depending on the number of Democratic votes the district cast for president in 2004 and governor in 2006.)

The idea behind this breakdown is to reward heavily Democratic areas with more delegates — which isn’t, by the way, crazy. But it has produced extra representation for areas with many black voters or ultraliberals, two groups who have turned out reliably for Democratic candidates in recent years. And it has yielded fewer delegates for districts dominated by Latinos, who split among four candidates in a wild gubernatorial race in 2006, and a chunk of whom favored George W. Bush over John Kerry in 2004.

So Senate District 13 in Houston and District 23 in Dallas, which are represented by the only African-Americans in the Texas Senate, plus District 14, which includes the University of Texas at Austin, will award a combined 21 delegates next week. In contrast, the six districts who have Latino senators have a total of just 22 delegates.

Republican Gerrymandering Will Help Obama

more...

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/02/why_the_perplexing_texas_prima.html
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:10 PM
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1. As an O supporter, I must ask...
...why must Barack always stand with both his hands clamped over his crotch?

Is it because he's standing next to Hillary? :evilgrin:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:22 PM
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3. No, be nice...
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 08:23 PM by babylonsister
or not. I really don't have an answer! More comfy? Stock pic?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:28 PM
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4. Truthfully, I saw a full length picture of Obama recently. If that wasn't a gun
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 08:29 PM by Kahuna
in his pocket.....It's twue. It's twue.. :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: Michelle is a much better woman than I am.. :scared:
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:33 PM
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6. ....
WOW. :rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:34 PM
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8. Oye, this post is degenerating!
:rofl:
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:38 PM
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17. Can I see that picture?
:evilgrin:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:51 PM
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19. oh damn. i think you cured me.
i was finding harder and harder to not talk about how handsome i think he is. i think you just kicked my avoidance mechanism back into gear.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:54 PM
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20. Smart and gracious is sexy! nt
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 10:07 PM
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21. yup.
that smile, shaking his head and smiling last night. oy.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:30 PM
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5. He has to keep the "BAM" contained.
:P
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:33 PM
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7. Oh Behave!
}(
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:16 PM
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2. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:34 PM
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9. Can someone explain
to me why the "republican gerrymandering helps Obama"? Thanks.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:43 PM
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10. I can try. When DeLay pulled that redistricting b.s.,
it was with the intent to get the most rethug votes, and blacks weren't considered in his equation. But I guess they were there, and now they want to vote. Also, now these big districts have the most delegates.

I don't know about proportional representation.

Here's a link on TX delegates:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4642375


I hope someone can explain that better. :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:49 PM
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12. I get it now..thanks!
I guess I wasn't focusing.. I wanted you to explain it. :) :hi:

How ironic when you think about all the repercussions for them that could come from their tricky redistricting.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:40 PM
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18. Let me give this a shot
The puprose of gerrymandering is either to sufficiently diffuse your opponent or concentrate them to reduce their impact in surrounding districts.

In the case of Hispanic voters they got split up or it wound up pitting to hispanic congressmen against each other

In the case of African American the carved out 80% AA district where as before they might have been 30% across three districts. The though was that it is better to have one black district in Houston then three democratic disticts.


But by playing these tricke...they wound up diffusing Hispanic strength for Hillary and concentrating it for Obamaa but because of the way the allocate delegates based on prior democratic voting, the concetration effect help Obams get more delegates per district and Hillary does not get as many delegates in Hispanic districts along the Rio Grande Valley.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:45 PM
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11. I think the article explains it pretty well...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:15 PM
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14. What a great thread, rec'd!
:hide:
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:17 PM
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15. You're funny
Texas doesn't matter.

:)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:24 PM
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16. Ha! That's what I heard, and from Bill no less:
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