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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:37 PM
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Fox poll: 44% Kerry, 44% Bush
www.foxnews.com

This is probably the best we will ever do in a Fox poll. They won't let it get any worse than that for Bush.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:38 PM
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1. so that leaves..
12% for "other"?
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:39 PM
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2. And that's a Fox Poll!!!
That means a landslide for Kerry.
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travisleit01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:43 PM
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4. Haha...
Just what I was thinking!! :)
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:40 PM
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3. Oh Bush is SOOO going down
Just like his Poppy!

yeah!

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:27 PM
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12. Newsflash: Kerry needs more than 44% to win
I don't understand how DU'ers look at these poll as see it as a sign of Kerry's strength. I see it as a sign of his weakness. Kerry easily trounced his opponents in a primary campaign marked by an absence of negative attacks. Bush has a miserable economic record, his biggest domestic achievements (prescription drug bill, No Child Left Behind act) are now being questioned by people across the political spectrum. He presided over the greatest intelligence failure in American history and his former head of counterterrorism is saying he was asleep at the switch. American solidiers are dying in Iraq.

And yet, according to all these polls, it's still a dead heat. And Bush has just barely begun to use his $200 million warchest to define Kerry as an out-of-touch elistist liberal flip flopper (a characterization that those in the press are already inclined to believe).

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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:00 PM
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22. Oh, please....
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 08:04 PM by Lexingtonian
Not everybody believes what you believe about either Bush or Kerry. On the one hand you're being a purist about rejecting select portions of the Bush campaign propaganda and other parts you buy into hook, line, and sinker.

Undecideds tend to split for the challenger by 2:1 or more. And incumbents' maximal showing at the polling booth tends to be their 'approval' percentage (Bush's is somewhere between 48% and 45% at present). Not everyone knows who Kerry is and what he stands for and a lot of people are inclined to let another 6 or 7 months of events happen and provide evidence about the candidates' capabilities before they start deciding which way (and whether) to vote.

Notice also that this poll is 'registered voters', which is 50% people who rarely if ever actually vote (though they tend to reflect 'likely voter' splits closely). Zogby does 'likely voters'- the 50% or so who say they they will very likely show up and vote- and gets more decisiveness out of swing voters- Kerry 49%, Bush 45%, Nader 3%, Others/Undecided 3% (MOE usually under 1%).

It's close but not reason for the kind of defeatist semi-rationales I keep seeing folks like yourself posting around here.

About 45% of the electorate is tied to Bush no matter what- they don't see the national reality for what it is to you or me very much. They think more suffering and the destruction of prosperity is perhaps even going to drive more of the society back to their version of God and Christianity, or they've defined their lives as willing servants to rich masters, or they can't bear the vanishing of Mayberry America and deludedly believe that Bush's people will restore it. You know it, I know it, why pretend or even imagine that they can be persuaded otherwise?????

I'm tired of posting the rationale by which Kerry and Nader/Others should split everyone else 52 to 3 with some distortion of the final percentages by a somewhat higher Republican turnout rate. But that's my considered opinion about the outcome and I'm still looking for a rationale to doubt it not based on emotional fixations.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 09:52 PM
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23. It's a faux poll...
Plus half of nader's % will go to Kerry, when he can't get on the ballot in all 50 states.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:44 PM
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5. What's really interesting...
When independent candidate Ralph Nader (search) is included he receives three percent, Bush 43 percent and Kerry 42 percent. Nearly half of voters (45 percent) say they have been paying "a lot" of attention to this year's presidential election and another 39 percent say "some" attention.

That's fascinating.

1. This poll was of registered voters, not likely voters. Nader voters are some of the least likely to vote, so if Nader's only getting 3% of them, he's not going to be a factor.

2. 84% of Americans are paying some or a lot of attention to the election, eight months before it actually happens? This year is amazing. You don't normally get these kinds of numbers out until a week or two before the election.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:49 PM
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7. The Opposition
to Republican policy is more obvious than ever. People are seeing the effects of a party with total control in action. People do not like it. That should resonate for years to come!
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:49 PM
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6. Anyone who would vote
for * is my enemy.
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mikey_1962 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:50 PM
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8. It's only March.........
Only us political junkies care right now....Wait until after the convention.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:58 PM
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9. Wrong
According to this poll, 84% of registered voters are following the election closely. TODAY. Other polls have shown similar insanity. This has become a nation of political junkies.
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mikey_1962 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:16 PM
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10. God help us....
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Riptide Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:20 PM
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11. Does anyone know where Clinton was against Poppy at this point
in the game in 1992? Was Bush ahead?

At any rate, Faux whores so much for Bush that I am sure it is much worse than this.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:57 PM
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13. A distant second
At one point in the race Clinton was running third behind Bush and Perot. So let's not get too excited about these early polls; anything can happen by November.
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Donny247 Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:50 PM
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14. Remember
One thing to be excited about is that neither Reagan nor Clinton trailed their opponents after February of their re-election year. In fact, they stayed well ahead the whole time. This clearly is not the case with Shrub.
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:54 PM
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15. hm
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 05:55 PM by Hav
Even Fox can't find a picture of Bush where he doesn't look like a complete idiot.

edit: crappy homepage, bad design btw
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Kerry in 04 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:03 PM
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16. Saw the AP poll the other day. Bush had the lead?!?!?!?
Don't really understand that. Bush had a 46% to 43% lead. Most other polls show Kerry winning by at least 10%.
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LabMonkey Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:44 PM
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20. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry.html
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:10 AM
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24. Hi LabMonkey!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:02 PM
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17. 20 million in ads and that is the best they can do a tie
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:04 PM
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18. Whereas we now have $20 million more in the bank
Kerry raised $10 million on the internet alone this week, and the DNC is raising at least $10 million at tonight's fundraiser. The tides turn.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:27 PM
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19. This Is A Good Poll for Kerry
If an incumbent is under 50% 7 months before the election, then that's good news for the challenger. Second, Bush is a known commodity, but Kerry is not that well-known. Third, Kerry has yet to choose a VP, which will give him a huge bump if he makes a good pick.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:55 PM
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21. I'm amazed they
even showed this.
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