On last nights PBS News Hour, Dean calls for w's impeachment (no "I" word)

[Jim Sagle]

About 6:20 into this audio of his interview with Margaret Warner, he states:

That is not someone who is capable of being President of the United States and exerting meaningful leadership in this country.

<snip>

I believe that we need a commission of independent inquiry to find out what the President knew and when he knew it. I think this calls into question the capacity of this President to serve us any longer as President of the United States, and I think it's very fortunate an election is coming up, where the American people will make their judgment. The President's credibility and his honesty is now in question.

In the interview, Dean made clear he was speaking for himself and not John Kerry. Kerry is therefore now free to make whatever use of this bombshell that will best suit his campaign.

(I transcribed this segment by hand. The full transcript should be available at the main News Hour link some time today.)

[coloradodem2005]

1. I agree with Dean.

Now to state the old mantra, how many lives did a blowjob cost? None

How many lives did Bush Cost? About 4,500 and counting.

[Jim Sagle]

2. Absolutely. Someone had to be the first major figure to say it,

and I guess he decided he might as well be the one.

[DFLforever]

5. His statement was dynamite

and after he completed it, he looked into the camera with the steadiest, most level gaze I've ever see from any one on television news.

[Adelante]

7. Bob Graham July 2003

Nobody was listening.

[Cocoa]

21. the media scolded him

how dare Graham say such a thing, etc.

[Nomad559]

3. Video

I up-loaded the video here

[Jim Sagle]

4. Thanx! Either I overlooked it or it wasn't there before.

[Prodemsouth]

6. I am really starting to like this guy so much! Jeeze sometimes I think

I am brain dead, I always liked Dean and would have supported him if he was nomn, but thought Kerry or Clark were a stronger candidate. Go Governor Dean someone needs to say what you are saying. Keep saying what you are saying our country needs you! (most Americans don't know it yet) Lets hope Dean can continue to drive W down. Will Dean be our 76 Reagan- the guy we should have voted for to face W.

[sangh0]

10. I'm starting to warm up to him myself

He is proving to be real asset to the party

[MoonRiver]

13. Same here. He's a true benefit to the party.

In terms of electability (which is everything this election, imho), I was uncomfortable with him as our nominee, and still would be. But the guy is awesome as a spokesperson for Democratic values. I think he'll go far.

33. OMG

Have you seen the light?
oh my god.
I can barely type, I'm so stunned...

well, I had to tweak you a little.:)

[maggrwaggr]

40. gee, too bad y'all weren't in Iowa a few months back.

:(

Dean says everything that needs to be said.

[blondeatlast]

8. Dean is proving valuable in the strategic part of the campaign,

and he KNOWS it.

He knows the press will listen to him, and he knows how to work them well.

I wasn't a supporter of his, but I'll give him kudos now: He is committed 100% to ending the BFEE, and he is a keen, cool operative.

Go, Dr. Gov!

[madfloridian]

9. Yes, he did. Just did not use the word.

"Are you speaking for John Kerry"

"No, I am speaking for myself. You did not ask me on here to speak for John." That is from memory, but pretty close.

[mzmolly]

18. The guy ROCKS don't he MF?!

OH man.

Ya know, I think Dean has found his *calling* in this election. Were he the front runner, he'd have to be mum on much of this. And now he's able to TELL IT LIKE IT IS! And, the media is giving him a voice.

Dean will be an instrumental player in the defeat of * in 2004. I am lovin every minute of it. I can only hope that one day, in my lifetime we will see a President Dean.

[madfloridian]

19. You are very right, mzmolly.

:hi:

[BurtWorm]

22. Dean. Friggin'. Rocks.

You're absolutely right about his position now. It is his calling. And I think Kerry actually deserves credit for knowing it's Dean's calling, for not backing away from him. There's a picture of them together at GWU where they actually look like they're enjoying being in each other's company!

[mzmolly]

28. Yes BW, it is so interesting to see how this is all playing out.

I maintained early on that the Rethugs would rue the day they helped take Dean out of the nomination. :evilgrin:

Howard Dean will be a far more dangerous man to the R's without having to watch his step.

He will also continue to work for the fundimental change that is so very needed in this country and in our political system.

I look forward to following his new *calling* as you say.

[ScreamingMeemie]

11. Go Governor Dean! Keep yelling for us!

Great statement by a great man.

[bklyncowgirl]

12. Great Interview

Dean's said what had to be said and did it in a serious and thoughtful way. He also gave Kerry the ability to distance himself from these comments if he chooses.

[newyawker99]

15. Hi bklyncowgirl!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[bklyncowgirl]

23. Thanks

I've been sort of lurking for a while so I thought I'd jump in.

[Sinistrous]

14. "The President's credibility and his honesty is now in question."

Was'nt bush going to use his *unassailable* credibility as one of his main campaign themes?

We at DU knew bush had a total void in the credibility department, but I think the events of this week have made that theme useless (to bush) in the campaign.

[Joanne98]

16. God I'm glad he's back

I love Howard:)

[mzmolly]

17. Yes indeed! Damn I love that Dean guy!!!!

:toast:

[Jim Sagle]

20. I'm almost ready to switch my avatar back to Dean!

[mzmolly]

30. LOL. You could do it like mua. List one in your sigline and the other

as an avatar? ;)

[Khephra]

24. Thank god for Dean

He's the reason I still have hope in the party.

Rock on!

:toast:

[Jim Sagle]

25. Tucker Carlson mentioned Dean on Crossfire. He slagged him as a nut,

but did NOT mention what he said last night. I suspect this interview will be ignored altogether.

[madfloridian]

26. There is a pattern when Dean says something.

At first there is almost no response. It takes a while, then drip drip.

The Kerry rep and Begala did, to their credit, take up for Dean. There was huge applause for him.

The problem is that Begala is too little too late. What he does now is just crumbs thrown in our direction.

I believe the response will come. The pattern is that he says it way ahead of the others, but it does get played later.

[yardwork]

43. Tucker's a jerk.

[madfloridian]

27. Transcript of the Newshour Dean appearance.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june04/dean_3-25.html

[chocolateeater]

37. Thank you for posting that.

:hi:

[madfloridian]

42. When he continues to speak out and try for change, I think of this article

Howard Dean: The UnNader?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4522514/
"It's a rare man whose real interest is the welfare of the people, even if there's not much personal gain. Maybe you are that man."

SNIP..."Unlike most catalyst candidates, who make things happen and then disappear, you could use your influence to bring young people to the polls, to convince them that what happens in the Oval Office really will affect their lives and that they have a stake in affecting the outcome. You could convince like-minded independents that there is a real difference between the two parties and point out where their true interests lie.

Neither of those groups believes in altruism in politics. Hell, no one believes in altruism in politics. But wouldn't it be all of a piece with your historic insurgent candidacy if you created a historic altruistic role? There probably wouldn't be anything in it for you except the knowledge that you'd done something important for what you believed. But actually witnessing a politician doing that might rev up the voters just as much as your strange and improbable campaign did.END SNIP

[ulysses]

29. ah, the irony

I believe that we need a commission of independent inquiry to find out what the President knew and when he knew it.

All kudos to Dean, but I wonder how many folks remember that Cynthia McKinney was eviscerated in this forum two years ago for saying very nearly the same thing.

[mzmolly]

31. It would be ironic if Dean eviscerated her.... I am surprised to hear

that though. I can't imagine anyone here *who is really a Dem/leftist etc.. would do so?

[ulysses]

32. it wasn't Dean.

Paul Begala got in on the fun as I recall, as well as more than a few DUers.

[buycitgo]

34. right! most mainstream dems reacted as if she had the plague

marburg

aids

crabs

clap

bovine whatever

cooties

etc

she's a HERO!

right up there with Sibel Edwards

Clarke

Dean, even, for opening his mouth early on to the BS

lots more......almost started a thread on heroes

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[ulysses]

36. common meme - got backup?

Quote? Anything? Something that's not from her father?

[ulysses]

38. didn't think so.

There never is.

[Zhade]

39. Prove it, or expect to be called on your libel.

This is a baseless accusation and a slur against a great woman and leader. So you damn well better have proof when you say something like this.

[TankLV]

41. And those few disruptors are now tombstoned.

Go figure!

[Lugnut]

44. As usual

I agree with the good doctor. I hope he never shuts up. :)