Clarke, if I read his book correctly, protested the Vietnam War...

[Bread and Circus]

That is certainly interesting. This guy is an amazing
American figure. I hate to beat a dead horse, but every
DU'er has got to buy his book.

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[Frances]

3. How old are you?

Those of us who lived through those times were glad any time a person joined the protest against the war. Most people were not tuned into the war until our soldiers started dying.

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[jo35042]

7. Not so easy that

everyone saw the truth. Some people still think anti-anywar is UnPatriotic.:bounce:

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[Warpy]

12. I was against US involvement in 62

I was a teenager, a precocious brat, and I stood up with the only other people to protest at that time, the Quakers, in their weekly silent vigil outside the county courthouse. Yes, people thought that we were all crazy, and yes, they threw things.

However, I never was able to develop that kind of snobbery against people who weren't against the war until the late 1960s or even early 1970s. Don't forget, the press was lying to people then, just as they are now, and the war was continually giving people greater and greater body count numbers, beamed right into their living rooms. It is always difficult to convince people that they've been gullible enough to fall for lies, but to convince them that their own respected "democratically elected" government would lie to them and base an illegal and immoral war on a lie is still more difficult. That it took over fifty thousand young guys coming home in body bags and even more coming home as shattered human beings to wake them up to this fact is tragic, but understandable.

I suspect that the reason the rage against the Iraq fiasco is growing so quickly is because Vietnam is fairly recent history. We know they are lying. They've done it before. That it's taking nice people a little extra time to realize that thier sunny highschool notions of what this country is all about is not true is not a cause for contempt. It a cause for celebration when it finally does dawn on them.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

15. Were you there? Are you qualifed to speak on this subject or not?

How old are you? Did you protest?

[jo35042]

6. Amen

[Bread and Circus]

11. I'll have to go back and read. Later, I think (perhaps '72)

At least I don't think he was saying "love it or leave it".

Give the guy a break, he's already getting enough shit from the White House.

[BootinUp]

2. I just got mine today

gotta start readin it tonight.

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[jo35042]

9. you are right that

a further look at the man is warranted. But what I have seen so far is enough to make me want to know more. He looks like an Honest Man to me and that is too rare.:bounce:

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[pacifictiger]

14. I think the fact that he criticized

both administrations gives him more credibility. Clinton got roundly blasted for the few military strikes he did authorize, so it is not surprising to me he was too politically weakened at the time (by the republican's sex obsession) to authorize as much military force as Clarke felt necessary.

[Bread and Circus]

16. So far, he has been most complimentive of Clinton...

but I have read only a portion of the book thus far...

[Bread and Circus]

13. Oh, ok...I think you are absolutely wrong...why don't you just read the

book instead of repeating the White House spin.

[atre]

17. Clarke says that...

if the Bush Administration had been doing the same things that the Clinton Administration had been doing, 9/11 probably would have been averted.

Additionally, his slight criticisms of Clinton make him seem even all the more honest to me (and the public at large, I'm sure). Clinton gets criticized for inconsistency. Bush gets criticized for doing NOTHING.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

18. Upon what facts are you basing your opinion?

[cmd]

19. He's gone to the graveyard.

So sad.

[fujiyama]

20. .

[Piperay]

21. So what???

I don't really care what his motivation is and whatever the motivation is it has nothing to do with the validity of what he says. :think: