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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:38 PM
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Ralph Nader: "If you want Bush out, vote for Kerry."
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 10:39 PM by DaveSZ
Did anyone else see Ralph's speech in North Carolina today?

I thought it was a pretty good speech.

:P

Let's hope they work out their differences when they meet together for the betterment of our country.


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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:39 PM
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1. Could Nader be coming to his senses, finally!?!?!?!?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:42 PM
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2. Karl Rove would FREAK OUT...
Another anticipated conservative strategy point eliminated...

This would be great if Nader is really going to boost rather than divide DEMS...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:45 PM
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3. I Don't Trust Nader


He is a publicity mad man.
He wants us to think that he is going to go to Kerry but he won't until hell freezes over.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:46 PM
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4. The Nader-hating psychotics on DU should kiss Ralph's ass.
(Assuming of course that he really said this. :-) )
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:24 PM
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11. Nah, Analingus ain't my style.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:26 PM
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12. How about the Kerry-hating psychotics at...
?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:42 AM
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22. But, but, Kerry is fair game, haven't you heard.
Rove said so, must be true. Saint Ralph is off limits though. He's *'s golden boy.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:46 AM
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17. They still bash Dean
after all he has done. Why should it be any different now?
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:30 AM
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20. I will if he means it
and he actually helps Kerry win, I will also never say another bad thing about him. :-) I am doubtful though because I don't trust him and his ego. :-(
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:53 PM
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5. If Nader does bow out, which I predict, I will respect him, again.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:58 PM
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9. I won't
I will disrespect him less, but he's still guilty for four years of Bush. It will take a lot to make amends.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:54 PM
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6. I've seen no evidence that they will meet.
The Kerry people have not responded.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:55 PM
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7. If that's Ralph's message, great!
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:57 PM
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8. Those were his words (or something very close to that effect)
As for the alleged Nader/Kerry meeting, that's what CNN was reporting.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:21 PM
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10. I think it would be funny if...
...he took all this money from Republicans, used it for a bunch of anti-Bush* ads and then endorsed Kerry.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:41 PM
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13. "Win Ben Stein's Money" - then use it against Bush.
;)
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:04 AM
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14. If he did that
I would definitely regain respect for him. I'm very sceptical that he will, but if he does, great!
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:28 AM
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15. THAT would indeed rock...
...can you imagine how quickly they'd try to sue him?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:34 AM
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21. I like your plan! He would need to stay in the race a long time,
then drop out and pull his name of the ballots, if that's possible.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 12:42 AM
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16. Maybe Ralph is finding out
he doesn't have the support he thought he would.

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zoeyfong Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:07 AM
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18. No shit; i'm pro-nader and i would say the same thing. If your only
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:08 AM by zoeyfong
concern is getting bush out in 2004, of course vote for kerry. No one is under any illusions that nader is going to win. Unfortunately, a lot of people are under the illusion that replacing bush with kerry is going to suddenly reverse the political momentum of the last ten years and turn this country in the right direction. A lot of people are also under the illusion that we got where we are solely, or at least largely, due to bush and the republicans. WRONG.

The whole american political system is rotten to the core, and the democratic party has *no interest* in changing this fact. It has no interest in addressing the problems facing average americans if it interferes with status quo corporate/aristocracy-owned politics of convenience and self-advancement. Nader is not about winning in 2004; nader is about raising issues of paramount importance that the two major parties *refuse* to raise, and thus there is no benefit in voting for one of the major parties and *hoping* that some day they will raise these issues. A human life span is only so long, and a person can only keep waiting and hoping for so many elections before they decide to vote for somebody else.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:17 AM
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19. I don't trust Ralph Nader.
He talks out of both sides of his mouth. He assured Democrats that his candidacy wouldn't threaten Kerry at all and that he could draw Republican voters away from Bush.

Haven't seen any sign of that so far.

Nader is a publicity hound and he loves to be in the spotlight. He's nearing the end of his political activist days and this is probably his last shot at running for president.

Meanwhile, he won't go quietly into that good night.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 07:57 AM
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23. I would be enormously grateful to Nader.
If he and Kerry can 'reconcile' and Nader wound up endorsing Kerry, I would feel an enormous sense of gratitude AND indebtedness to him. Like it or not, Ralph Nader represents a small but highly-motivated part of the electorate; if he were to endorse Kerry and persuade his supporters to back Kerry, that could well come to represent the 'light at the end of the tunnel' we have all waited these last 3+ years to see.

:)
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 08:15 AM
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24. I saw him speak in NC
he didn't once mention his candidacy or the election until the Q&A at the end. He spent most of his time talking about the corporatization of the planet and how to get involved with grass roots change. It didn't feel at all like a campaign speech.

It seems he is concentrated on what he has always done. When talking about corporate malevolence the guy knows his shit like no other.
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