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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:37 AM Original message |
Hillary being called a "Bitch": Makes me want to get on the next wave of feminism |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why Is Sexism Accepted In So Called "Polite Circles" But Racism Isn't? |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Yes we should |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Goddamn Right |
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powergirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Obama supporter here and I do not tolerate |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I Still Hear "So Called" Educated People Making Homophobic And Sexist Remarks |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. thank you. I know Obama would be appalled by the name-calling of some of his fans here on DU! |
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midora (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
78. A Mean Woman |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks for bringing the issue up, or not, as the case may be. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. How Does Losing Her Lead In A Poll Turn Her Into A "Stupid" Or "Fucking Bitch"? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. You are connecting two disparate things. Try evaluating the one you raised. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Yes, there were. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Well, good, but the point stands, doesn't it, that the sheer number of |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Do you have a graph or something? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. That can be your project if you want. You have a star. Do your own |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. It was your claim, not mine. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. If it's a separate matter, Sparkly, then the OP is mistaken. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
71. The OP is about calling Hillary a "bitch" |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. I get the point, but I see that the post was presented in GD-Primaries |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. This is silly. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. You think she's going to win the nomination? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I doubt it, but you're changing the subject again. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Her being a frontrunner has nothing to do with her candidacy? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. "I support Obama but I do not like seeing Hillary trashed. " |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. They may well be what they seem but that doesn't make them thoughtful. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
49. A shitty mess indeed. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. dont want to debate the point... I am just energized to take action |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
87. Well, cap, I go elsewhere all the time. I go to the grocery store, the |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. You shouldn't attribute someone's actions to their race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. But robbing "all of us" of our individuality is what I DO. That's why they |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. The HillaryHaters will all fade away soon, no matter who gets the nom. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
33. so true. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
67. I don't know about that. That much hate doesn't just vanish overnight. Hate transference is a very |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. She has earned the trashing that she gets by her despicable actions |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. the MATURE obamafolk are into vile thrashing nor name-calling!! |
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easy_b94 (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. MY mom watch 60 Min. last night and she call her a bitch |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I Am Half Jewish |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. But.... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Did They Say Bitch Should Be Prefaced By "Fucking" Or "Stupid"? |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Why would that |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. That's so missing the point |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. My mom is in her 60s and she calls her a bitch too |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. This remark is off topic |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. No it isn't |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I did not intend for this thread to be a discussion of whether there is sexism |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
74. your mom has a problem |
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susanr516 (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. I don't know how to handle it. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
17. The sexism, hit what I thought was my last nerve, at the Iowa debate. Then |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
19. Who is calling her a B****? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. "Name removed", mostly. Our Mods are doing fine work! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. some |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
24. hillary needs to stop acting like one, then...her "as far as i know" comment re: Obama's religion- |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. That's A Ridiculous Argument |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. it's more than just the one comment- it's her entire demeanor throughout this campaign. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Your Argument Becomes More Ridiculous |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. i'm not blaming hillary's campaign conduct on her race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation- |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. The First Amendment Only Protects You From The Government |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
66. they may not have jobs- but they weren't prosecuted for anything involving what they said. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. It Is Not That Simple |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. it is that simple for me...i use the term bitch in reference to both men and women... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Maybe You Need To Create A New Dictionary And New Definitions |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. not necessary... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. You Can Call A Horse A Plane But That Doesn't Mean It Can Fly |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. She talks of how the Muslim rumor is a smear job-Did you forget that comment in your hate? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Hillary Clinton knows full well what church Barack Obama belongs to. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. but the "as far as i know" comment basically negated all of that. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Agreed. Sen. Clinton forgets, on purpose, that words really do matter. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
25. How about reviving the Equal Rights Amendment? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I'm for it and endorse your idea. It's long overdue, in fact, |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
81. hear hear.... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
42. I am not seeing any "wave" of feminism as a bad wave to get onto, and see |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
43. You are always going to have a certain amount of that in any campaign. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
46. I don't think that Tina Fey meant any harm. n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
48. Sexism is candidate Clinton's primary opponent [Philly Inquier} |
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printpolitico (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. bingo |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. There is another group--who take things for granted--the rights many early |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. You have some good ideas but let's not lose them in |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No it isn't. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Sexism has played a role--i do not agree it is primary. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
88. But sexism, whether nuanced or overt, plays a part in a lot of things. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
53. Be my guest |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
55. It fucking well pisses me off. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
56. Let's focus on what do we want to do next... |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I'm alerting the mods on some of this... |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
80. Do not give the obnoxious fuckers the power to shut your thread down. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
63. Thank you! I'm for Obama, too, but the reflexive sexism against Clinton is appalling |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
65. This Saturday is International Women's Day. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
69. The number one issue for women that needs to be addressed is health care/insurance. |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. Your right about health care |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
70. Hillary even seemed to think it was cool to call herself a "bitch".. |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
72. I'm a woman. I've been called bitch. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Good one!! |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
83. I'd like her to be a woman. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
84. Hillary says she's not a bitch and I take her at her word |
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cap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #84 |
98. back to the original post: what are we going to do for the next wave of feminism... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
85. I'll just call her a rat bastard from now on |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. LOL |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
90. I never thought I would be on the wave, but since NH, I've been riding the tidal wave. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
91. i am voting obama and i sure will yell about the seism shit too. n/t |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
99. I think she should own the bitch label. I don't mind being called a bitch. That said, sexism sucks. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. i ahd a 15 yr old tell me being called a whore was ok because it just doesnt mean |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-04-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
101. It doesn't surprise me that we've ended up with the two most easily demonized Demo candidates. |
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