Al Gore entering the race late ala Hubert Humphrey...

[NJSecularist]

If I remember correctly, Humphrey entered the presidential race in 1968 in April.

This may be the only way to not alienate the entire party. Both candidates supporters would have their feelings hurt if the nomination was given to the other candidate.

(Disclaimer: We all know what happened to Robert F Kennedy, and we certainly don't want that to happen here.)

We can hope, right? :)

It may be a neccesity come August. Both candidates could render their opponents unelectable after months and months of attacks.

[Medusa]

1. NO.

No. hell no. Hell fucking no. Let it go. It's just a dream. I'd love it too but why would he take a DEMOTION to be our president? He's probably laughing his ass off right about now at the circus.

[NJSecularist]

3. Yeah, it's probably just a pipe dream

But being a president is certainly not a demotion. :)

Who knows what will happen from now until August, but there is a possibility that neither candidate will be electable come late August after they've ripped each other to shreds for almost 2 years.

[Andrea]

54. You are right!

Will either of them be left standing? Will either be electable? I doubt it. Gore is the answer to this mess.

[thevoiceofreason]

2. Another negative post. I'm waiting for something else.

Why do you keep the Obama emblem? Camoflauge?

[NJSecularist]

6. How is this negative?

I'm still an Obama supporter. But by August, both candidates might rip each other to shreds and make either candidate unelectable after months and months of attacks. We are reaching the point of no return here where regardless of whom is nominated, half the party will be offended.

[sandnsea]

11. lol

Thanks for drawing that to my attention. I hadn't paid attention to who the poster was. It's too funny, isn't it?

[Cha]

19. I know...:wtf:

Gore doesn't want it..we're behind Obama now.

If you don't support Obama anymore, NJ..why don't you just come out with it?

[NJSecularist]

21. I still support Obama, but Gore is my second choice if this thing gets ugly

And thus he is my avatar now. :)

[Cha]

27. Ye of little faith! Obama's gonna win and

hilary's made sure it's already UGLY.

[kwenu]

39. Gore isn't running and won't be running. You need to choose from the candidates who are running.

You'd think this would be elementary but I guess its not.

[Andrea]

55. That's awfully snide

It's generally not a good idea to be so snarky when you don't know what you are talking about.

I'm just sayin...

[Fenris]

4. Er, I certainly wouldn't hope for Gore's entry.

First off, if I remember correctly, Humphrey lost. And the process that nominated Humphrey provided the party its darkest hour in the last 50 years. He certainly wasn't seen as a uniter. Another entry into the race would not unite the party, but divide it further.

[hueyshort]

9. The funny thing is, that now I think HRC will be better

than any of the guys I'd originally wanted - Dean, Gore, Edwards.
She has proven her mettle in the debates.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

5. Unelectable ?

[DJ13]

7. That was only possible because LBJ quit the race at that time

[barack the house]

8. Actually I do really like Barack but this works Obama passes his delegates to Gore then go vp.

[barack the house]

12. No way on earth she could attack Gore and Obama gets 16 years as vp and pres.

[brooklynite]

10. GORE - WAS - A - LOUSY - CANDIDATE

I know this is heresy to many people here, but the bottom line was that Gore NEVER came up with a coherent message or rationale for his campaign, lost his home state, lost Clinton's home state, and allowed the election to come down to a narrow margin in Florida that allowed the Supreme Court and FL election officials to interfere. Despite his admirable effort on behalf of the environment, I haven't seen any sign that he'd do a better job running this year.

[DJ13]

13. I know this is heresy to many people here

Not to me, but I blame Donna Brazile for that more than I blame Gore.

Imagine if Gore had Axlerod running his campaign.

[kwenu]

40. No big deal.

It's not heresy. It's just irrelevant. It's 2008.

[barack the house]

14. He would be an unstoppable candidate with Obama. Plus two hefty awards under his belt.

Gore alone couldnt do it there is the AA base but if Obama negotiated his delegates for VP slot the game would be on.

[barack the house]

15. ...

[NJSecularist]

17. Candidates can change. They can improve. Look at Nixon in 1960 and then 1968.

Nixon never should have lost the election in 1960 after 8 years of an Eisenhower administration. But he did. His message was muddled. He didn't connect with the voters.

But he came back in 1968, focused his message, and won the presidency.

Very similar scenarios between Nixon and Gore.

[CookCountyResident]

32. You nailed it.

Gore coming back in August? A pipe dream. No time to raise funds, for starters.

[Andrea]

56. Key word in your post:

WAS

[MonkeyFunk]

16. LOL

god, you people are delusional.

[RememberWellstone]

18. That would be nice

I think the nation would respect him now even more than ever.

[verges]

20. I was just thinking

about that possibility. Not likely, but I like it. And in this years season, unlikely ain't impossible. Just another wacky twist to this already convoluted election season.

How does a brokered convention work?

[Skip Intro]

22. I don't think he'd do it at this point. Not sure he should.

He'd be recieved by some as a savior, possibly me included, but how many would actually leave either current camp to join his? I think at best he'd make it a three-way race, but not sure he'd actually win. He may sow more chaos.

I really don't think an extended process rather than a coronation is necessarily bad, or something we need to avoid.

[NJSecularist]

24. "I really don't think an extended process rather than a coronation is necessarily bad, or something"

Agreed. But what if we don't have a nominee until the convention starts in Late August and this party is still fractured 50/50? I am worried we might be getting to a point of no return...and Gore or Edwards may be the only solution.

[Skip Intro]

28. "...or something we need to avoid." I don't know. I don't think Gore will be a factor.

I see how the party could come out of the convention split, but to avoid that we'll have to demand the process come to an end before anyone has achieved the winning number of delegates. How can we call a race over when it isn't over? That would guarantee a split party. Without Gore coming in, we have to let the process continue, we can't be in fear of our own system.

[Beregond2]

23. Feelings

We are supposed to base these things on who might get their feelings hurt? Please.

[NJSecularist]

25. MOST people vote based on their feelings

This is not a new concept.

Us policy wonks and Democrat loyalists obviously don't, but the majority of swing voters do.

[kwenu]

44. They are entitled to do that but history will record it and judge it.

[RoadRage]

26. Nope.. I don't think he'd be "liked" at this point anyway..

The majority of this party has wrapped themselves around Obama or Clinton. I for one would not vote for Gore over Obama at this point.. and frankly him coming in and stealing it is no better then Clinton, really.

Well.. we had a great chance to nominate the first black or female voter.. but at the last second, we opted for the white guy who lost once already instead. :eyes:

I know many like him (espeically now that he's out of politics).. but many don't as well. Many of Obama's cross-overs would not be on a Gore bandwagon.. he's to green.. to left for them. I like Gore.. but I like Obama better.

[lildreamer316]

30. He did not lose.

It was stolen from him by the supreme court.

And we should nominate the best person for the job, WHOEVER that is..white, black, female, or male. We can't afford the luxury of catering to our vanities now. It's getting a little late for..oh, the earth we live on, maybe.

[RoadRage]

36. Ahh.. there is some logic: Have the guy who had the '00 election

stolen from HIM, steal it from the guy who should win the '08 primary.

I think Al probably knows better then anyone how it feels to have something swiped out from under you.. therefor, he'd probably be the last guy on earth who'd want to do that to Obama.

Thankfully Gore seems to be far more ethical in that regard then Hillary Clinton does. She'd steal this election from her grandmother if needed.

[Andrea]

57. What are you talking about?

In RL, I don't know anyone who supports either Obama or Clinton. Besides that, how many who support them only do so because they didn't have the option of voting for Gore?

Too green? that's silly. No such thing.

And what's this about "lost once already"? Surely you don't believe that.

[kwenu]

29. LEARN TO CONFRONT YOUR RACIST AND SEXIST FEARS. NO WHITE GUY IS COMING TO SAVE YOU.

It's time for America to take another step toward equality and live up to its promise.

[lildreamer316]

31. We can't live up to our promise..

if we're all dead from global warming.

If I feel Obama and/or Hillary is the best person for the job, then I will vote for them.

I guess it's unfortunate that a southern white male is better qualified than both of them.

[kwenu]

34. There is no southern white male in the race for the U.S. presidency.

I have no idea how you have decided a southern white male is better qualified but it doesn't really matter does it? Come back to reality confront your fear and move on. You'll be fine. Really.

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[kwenu]

37. Actually no. I've voted for lots of white guys with no reservations whatsoever.

But there are no white guys on the democratic ticket this time around and fantasizing about Gore is ridiculous.

[mrbluto]

41. Extinguishing the "Hope" of another.

So are the words "Hope" and "Fantasy" interchangable?

"Inspired" and "deluded"?

How unlikely does something one wishes for have to be before it crosses the line from a "Hope" to a "Fantasy"?

[kwenu]

42. Hope cannot easily be extinguished.

So are the words "Hope" and "Fantasy" interchangable?

NO!!!!!

"Inspired" and "deluded"?

NO!!!!!!

How unlikely does something one wishes for have to be before it crosses the line from a "Hope" to a "Fantasy"?

IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR A CANDIDATE THAT ISN'T IN THE RACE YOU NEED TO TELL ME BUDDY!!!!!!!!

[asthmaticeog]

45. That's a pretty huge leap you're making, there.

There are plenty of reasons besides sex and race to dislike our current choices.

[kwenu]

49. Not a leap at all. There may be other reasons to dislike the dem candidates but

THEY are the Dem candidates. There are no other choices. There are posts on this board that suggest Obama should "GIVE" his delegates to AL GORE and then run as VP and everything will then be roses.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???!!!!!

It's OBAMA OR HILLARY!!!!! They've earned it fair and square. If you don't like it take your racist/sexist ass over to the other party where you belong and quit pretending that you're something that you're NOT!!!!!

[ecstatic]

53. lmfao nt

[BenDavid]

33. Gore will not enter the race because of half the folks do not

like the man that should have been president in 2001.....

[donheld]

38. Oh do get a life

:eyes:

[casus belli]

43. Or maybe Jesus will come and none of this will be necessary.

:sarcasm:

[cali]

46. I won't vote for Al Gore. Period.

It would alienate me completely from the dem party. I won't tolerate some guy who didn't have the stomach to fight for the nomination waltzing in at the last moment. Think I'm alone in that sentiment? Think again. Not just no but no fucking way. Thankfully it's just a pipe dream on the part of the true cultists- the Al Gore is god contingent. He ain't. He's another politician and as flawed as any of them.

[joshcryer]

47. Wow.

[cali]

48. Wow what? I'll vote for either of the two candidates even though

I'm not happy with a lot of what Clinton's been doing/saying and have reservations about her from a foreign policy viewpoint. I am not looking for a savior, and whatever else one can say about the two remaining candidates, they have the guts to fight for what they believe.

[Andrea]

50. K & R for my president

[Faygo Kid]

51. That was a different time. LBJ didn't step down until March.

How could Humphrey - the VP - enter the race before LBJ - the incumbent - stepped down?

Bad night for history buffs here on DU.

[dflprincess]

52. Yes, we can hope and maybe we should be visualizing (it can't hurt)

You are correct that Humphrey didn't enter the race until April, after LBJ took himself out. But times were different then, RFK didn't declare until March. In 1960 JFK declared in January.

Personally, I preferred a shorter campaign, this thing has dragged on too long.

[EstimatedProphet]

58. Nice post, Nixon

Great way to not alienate the party. Maybe if we try we can have a nice productive convention too, like we did in 1968.