Alernative Reality #2.If LaRouche and Lieberman where the only two running

[sleipnir]

Poll question: Alernative Reality #2.If LaRouche and Lieberman where the only two running

Who would you vote for?

The radical leftist who may have some crazy (possibly criminal ideas) but whom is absoluty driven to stopping PNAC and Cheney's secret control

OR

The known centrist, with a proven track record, a few liberal ideas, but who has passively accepted and thus furthered PNAC.


Who do you vote for the nomination?


No third party, no staying home, if you are forced to vote due to a new obligitory voter law, who is it going to be?

[Padraig18]

1. EASY choice--- Lieberman!

He does have a halfway-decent progressive history in several areas. LaRouche is just a freakin' NUTCASE!

[Andy_Stephenson]

3. Why is he a nutcase?

Enquiring minds and all.

[salin]

7. My experience working in DC in the eighties

his folks were frequent protesters (though only four or five people) out on the sidewalk in front of the Rayburn House Office Building. The signs were all variations on: exile aids/hiv infected folks to a quarantined island.

Come to learn that in that time period they also tried to push a state level ballot initiative that had to do with quarantining people with HIV/AIDS.

There is much more when one reads up on him (publiceye has some interesting info) - but I can't speak to witnessing it first hand as I can the first thing. But the experience of having to pass through this group periodically with their insane and totalitarian views towards others makes what I read about LaRouche (in terms of bigoted statements over the years) ring true.

[Jack Rabbit]

19. LaRouche is a first class fruitcake

On a couple of occasions, in 1980 and 1986, LaRouche sponsored ballot initiatives to quarantine AIDS patients. In support of one these, he claimed on television that it was possible that mosquitoes carry the virus.

The man runs as a Democrat because, quite frankly, the Democratic Party is not as well organized as the GOP. In Illinois, also in 1986, he managed to get a couple of his candidates the nomination for statewide office. They didn't have a prayer of winning, but it put the Democrats in the uncomfortable of being all but forced to withdraw support of the party from statewide candidates (who were taking positions like AIDS patients should be quarantined). The problem was a distraction to the Democratic gubernatorial candidate that year, Adlai Stevenson III, who lost to the incumbent Republican, Jim Thompson.

[Jack Rabbit]

2. No costest

Lieberman may be wrong about the invasion but LaRouche is a fruitcake.

[IndianaGreen]

4. They are both insane!

Why should we replace the lunatic in the White House with another lunatic?

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

5. LaRouche may have some crazy ideas?

LaRouche is beyond the pale. I'm not the biggest fan of Holy Joe, but I'll pick him over LaRouche anyday. I may get tombstoned for saying this...but I'd vote for...nah, never mind.

[salin]

8. fortunately perrenial candidate LaRouche has been running for president

since 1976 or earlier... and the way that many folks have NEVER heard of him in all that time... suggests that his base is pretty miniscule and the chances of him even registering a percent of votes in ANY state are pretty small.

[reprehensor]

6. Gosh!

What a tough decision. All I have to say is . . . 'Medi-Kids'.

Fuckin' shyster.

[Walt Starr]

9. I go to prison for failing to follow the obligatory voter law

I ain't voting in this one and you can't make me.

[Bombtrack]

10. The LaRouche votes confirm the constant third to half kook presence at DU

Lieberman is a good and decent man, and even though I have a personal distaste for the overly-religous lifestyle that so many americans including him seem to have embraced, I can still RESPECT his choices that he makes. Because I probably agree with 9 out of 10 of his votes and positions on the issues

LaRouche is an incoherent whackjob.

[AntiCoup2K4]

13. Lieberman's "overly religious lifestyle" isn't my problem with the man

His unwavering support of the PNAC agenda is.

Having said that, I would never vote for La Douche either. If either of these two end up as the nominee, I'll start memorizing the metric system and trying to learn French as a second language, because I'll be relocating to the North by a couple hundred miles or so.

[Bombtrack]

15. What parts of the PNAC agenda other than regime change in Iraq?

or do you count "extreme" stuff like removing the Taliban among the PNAC agenda?

I don't think there's anything to support Lieberman having any alterior motive in supporting the war besides regime change in Iraq

[sleipnir]

16. Uh, voted YES on Syria too

So far, Iraq's the biggest element of PNAC to happen. I stronly feel he'd support almost any illegal war if Bush told him to. He also voted for PATRIOT Act and some of the PATRIOT ACT II measures. I don't trust Lieberman at all, I'd probably vote for Lieberman over LaRouche, but who knows. LaRouche seems to have reformed himself as a racist/bigot over the last couple of years.

[Bombtrack]

17. "almost any illegal war if Bush told him to" you reveal your ignorance

of these issues.

Bush didn't tell Lieberman to do anything. Joe signed the Iraq liberation act in 1998, while Bush was governor of Texas.

And the Syria vote was for some sort of sanctions or requirements for the Syrian government to reverse their aweful record of harboring terrorists and fostering terror. No "illegal war" involved.

[sleipnir]

18. Go ahead and defend Joe if you want.

Your comments show that you're as easily duped by the PNAC cabal. "Don't worry, your votes won't be used as an excuse to conduct unending war."

IWR wasn't supposed to be a blank check for war but it quickly became one. Same deal with Syria, it's supposed to be a sanctions bill but it could easily turn into a more devious bill under the control of Bush and the Dems who kow-tow to him at every move.

Joe's a good 'merican, he doesn't question the President, he doesn't worry about the ramifications of his votes, he only cares if he gets re-elected each year.

[beyurslf]

11. LaRouche is racist.

End of story.

[liberalhistorian]

12. Lieberman.

I'd have to hold my nose to vote, but definitely him over that totally fruitcake, paranoid, nutball, bigoted, hateful, crazy fuckstick LaRouche.

[hellhathnofury]

14. Lieberman. No contest. n/t

[robbedvoter]

20. At least Lieberman is not antisemitic

:shrug:

[One Taste]

21. Lieberman

Boy if there were ever a lesser of two evils poll...

[Jack Rabbit]

22. How about Bush v. LaRouche

Something I might dream about after having a rich desert just before going to bed.

[salin]

24. one choice

emigration - the country would be ready to distruct in either direction.

[mot78]

23. Lieberman

LaRouche is the tin foil king.