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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:47 PM Original message |
Manufactured or not, PastorGate is a big deal. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. It worked, it is undermining your support of Obama. . . |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Do you want to win an election or not? |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. A HIllary supporter worried about... |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. NJSecularist is an Obama supporter |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Doh, my apologies then |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
97. Rezko is just shady dealing - allegedly. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 03:43 AM Response to Reply #97 |
131. I believe you're overestimating how much weight someone's ex-pastor is going to have |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. Yes, just like a Hillary supporter ignoring Ferraro's race comments. We, meaning all |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. The Rethugs have been parroting this for 6 months.... and Obama has effectively answered it... |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
52. How long have the videos been available? nt |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
58. Let's hear his "effective" response. What is it? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
99. He calls Wright his "crazy uncle in the attic." |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. One could almost say Ferraro was Hillary's Crazy Auntie in the attic? |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #99 |
118. There is no way to spin unadulterated hate and a 20 year affiliation with it |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Exactly. That's why this one is going to stick. |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. I agree it can hurt him... |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I am still a supporter. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
80. So what? Jesus, no matter which candidate we run, there's going to be smears-- |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. It's not a manufactured smear. How long do you think this would be a secret? |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
81. Agree, it's not manufactured. It's real and it's important. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:57 PM Original message |
This is not "an Obama does no wrong" situation. . . |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
22. It doesn't matter if Obama did anything wrong personally. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
100. What Obama did wrong was continue to go to Wright's church. |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
117. Hell, I'd walk out if a preacher said "God damn Iran." What sort of "Christian" |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Not only that, Wright was the "inspiration" for the title The Audacity of Hope. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. what is it that you seek? Should he lie and |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. He should seperate himself from the man in all facets. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. I would lose respect for him if he did, and I know |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
101. Then he is UNELECTABLE. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #101 |
129. we shall see- |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Where have you been? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. That's been goin' down hill |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
114. Yes it has been, I noticed that as well... |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. I can see the ad already. Starts with the video of Barak on stage with the other candidates |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:21 PM Original message |
Yeah.... and that ad will only affect those people who already weren't going to vote for him..... |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
102. Really? How do you think that's gonna play with the INDEPENDENTS?? |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
107. That will be powerful, and it will hurt. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. What can Obama do to remedy the situation? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Like he's always done.. tell the truth. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Leave the church. Distance himself from the pastor. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. The pastor has retired... AND.... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Rev Wright is still the Pastor until May and the timing of his retirement looks bad too |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. ?? The guy is old... people retire when they get old...... besides... |
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paperbag_ princess (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. I have seen you say this several times |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. He already DID distance himself from his pastor's remarks.... |
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paperbag_ princess (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
62. I agree that he has done all that he can do...nt |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. I don't think he can Obama has said that "Rev Wright has been my 'spiritual adviser' for 20 years".. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. So what do we do? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
104. IT'S TOO FUCKING LATE!!! |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Agreed. It's too late. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. "We" don't do anything. "We" wait to see how Obama handles it. |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Become an athiest...oh wait, that won't work either. |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. Not unless he's had a 20 year relationship with the professor looked upon |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
82. 20 years with this guy, 17 with Rezko and Obama stayed pure throughout. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. He needs to concede so that Hillary can be our nominee. nt |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. OK, I'll let him know. n/t. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Thanks. nt |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wow..... Such weakness.... Grow a set.... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yup |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Exactly. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. the videos are doctored? nt. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. sorry ABC NEws did NOT "doctor" those videos...those videos were made & sold by the Rev himself |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. then how is it manufactured? nt. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
63. Rev Wright tapes all his sermons "manufactures" sells them for money to anyone who wants to buy them |
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oviedodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. Like McCains's spritual "endorser" is going to win him points. |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. Well then look them in the eye and stand up for Obama. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. word UP! |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. I will defend Obama just like I defended Kerry in 2004 |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. The point is, don't really spend a lot of time defending it. |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
113. One big difference: you were defending John Kerry against lies. |
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enid602 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. no big deal |
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Rex_Goodheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. Indeed |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. Seriesly hugh! |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
35. I completely agree. He needs to NIP THIS IN THE BUD ASAP! |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I agree with you 100%. |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Yes and its time us Obama supporters talk about how to resolve this instead of |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
84. We hoped the Swift Boat accusations would go away |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 04:00 AM Response to Reply #84 |
132. Why Don't The Two Of You Get A Room |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Well Clinton needs to nip her tax returns in the bud, I think. |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. oh no doubt. I worry more about Obama than Clinton though. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. Can't you stay on topic? |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
41. The Repubs will annihillate Obama on this... it will make swift boat look like turtle canoe. |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
42. Thank you, and I know that you are an Obama suporter too, like me. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. He hasn't showed good judgement here. |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Yes. He needs to denounce him. |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
71. true, i'm really pissed this pastor was so fucking stupid and said such offensive comments. |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
44. PastorGate will be a serious problem for Obama |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
49. The shenanigans in Ohio cost Kerry the Presidency |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. Good thing Dems aren't trying to win the wingnut vote, which is not the same as the black vote |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Most Americans will probably find Obama's pastor's comments deeply disturbing. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Most Americans will realize Obama's pastor is not Obama. n/t |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Most Americans will realize that the Swiftboat ads were a bunch of lies |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. Are you equating the liars with a minister? Do you realize that in 2004 Catholic leaders |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. I agree; but most such sleaze-bags have not had twenty -year relationships |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. His comments were recent, reactionary and denounced by Obama. So this is nonsense! n/t |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. How do you know that? |
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angie_love (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. when did the swiftboat vets come into play? before or after convention? just wondering. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. First initial ad was on May 20th, before the convention |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. Because most people don't put a lot of stock into rants by religious leaders and can distinguish |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
53. Yes, it is. This is the first Clinton attack that I will declare to be a big deal. This is Obama's |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. THIS IS NOT A CLINTON ATTACK. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #78 |
95. If I were in your camp, I'd be happy to claim it. This would be the first |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
127. Wake up |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
64. Okay, so it's the general election. Which issue is worse? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Pastorgate |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. So is Bill planning on living elsewhere if she's elected? |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
77. EXCELLENT POINT!! The Clinton sex-scandals will come barrelling out of the closet. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
128. Hmmmmm, let's see |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
72. Hugely damaging because Obama chose to present himself as a man of faith.... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
73. its a deal, its not a big deal and I fully expect Obama to handle it deftly |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
74. Phase 1 complete. Phase 2, OP Scary Black Preacher, initiated n/t |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
85. this is NOT "manufactured" lies like the swiftboat lies were these sermons are true & more damaging |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
87. the pastor apparently is still employed by the Obama campaign |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Your reason for believing this? Link? |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
88. Big deal to the Dixiecrats, I guess |
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WilyWondr (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
89. mccant + parsley = a nogo 4 the gop |
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arundhatiroyfan (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
90. In my opinion... |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. I am with you - When Hillary & Bill's records come out & Dubai ties + loads more come out - Yeah |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
94. What makes you think they won't just make up something else if PastorGate is neutralized? |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. That is so right on! We must stay focused and not let this get us off track! |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
96. quit pretending to support Obama. you aren't doing anybody any favors. |
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theredpen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
106. "NJSecularist" -- that says it all |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. REASONABLE human beings certainly do quit a church when they disagree with a church's philosophy./nt |
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theredpen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #112 |
125. The offending remarks were not core philosophy of the UCC |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
110. Yeah, and the Republicans would never be able to manufacture a dozen things for the Clintons |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
111. We can win this confrontation through brinksmanship. |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Or more kool-aid. A racist, sexist nominee with no experience...right.Keep drinking. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. "If it came to a choice between Israel and America, I would stand with Israel." |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
116. I'm stunned at how naive some people are around here |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
119. Wait a sec, you know someone who actually thought Dukakis |
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Judge_Mental (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
123. John Kerry lost the election. |
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NYDem Observer (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
124. As an obama supporter I'm a little worried |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-13-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
126. Manufactured Reality ... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-15-08 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
130. It's a big deal in a sense. However, its been diffused by this: |
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