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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:56 AM
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Tweety's show: Edwards to endorse Clinton soon.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:46 AM by spotbird
I didn't catch who the pundit with this scoop was, but apparently that's the rumor.

Thanks to Algorem for this update:


41. looked at tape:it was Richard Stengel,managing editor of Time,

He said Edwards will endorse Hillary Clinton,probably before North Carolina,possibly before Pennsylvania.Stengel said it's according to Mark Halperin of Time's "The Page".

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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:59 AM
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1. Crap
If he has stayed out of it this long, he should stay out for the duration.

Sorry I ever supported him, if this is true.

Hope delegates he has will break ranks.
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hueyshort Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:30 AM
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47. Edwards has Sense and Integrity
if he endorses a candidate, you'd better take a close look past the
BRAINWASHING that has been going on in the blogs for over a year.
Clinton is just damned solid. Her proposals are all closer to Edwards,
and B.O.'s veer very close to Republican.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #47
57. Please share specifics,
it might be interesting.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #47
88. Actually, given he said she had no conscience and was corrupt,
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 11:07 AM by karynnj
doing this - which I don't think he will - will combine with Edwards (1998-2004) not equaling Edwards 2008 and let many discount his claims that he was the only anti-corporate, anti- corruption candidate and unsupported nonsense that you write- when it is Obama who actually has written and gotten passed ethics legislation that has enough constraint on lobbyists that - per the NYT - it infuriated Schumer.

It would likely be seen that he was offered something - especially given the timing. It would seem that he got something that she was not ok with earlier.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:30 PM
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131. And if Obama wins which is a lot more
likely then what would John Edwards have?

If you're reading this Elizabeth..I really hope this isn't true because of what John and you stand for has nothing to do with hilary and the dinos.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #47
117. I love humor and bullshit as much as anyone, but
your post is a little hard to take. Even coming from a hillarian.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #47
161. sorry baby huey, but
:rofl:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:38 AM
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58. Time's Managing Editor, Rick Stengel, said Mark Halperin had this story, but it's not on his blog
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:39 AM by flpoljunkie
Snarky Mark Halperin, formerly of ABC's The Note, is not known to hold back in spreading any rumors--yet there is not a word on his blog about Edwards endorsing anyone.

http://thepage.time.com/
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:11 AM
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90. This is an OPINION - that's why there ins't a "story" - there's no inside information
to be had.

I really hate irresponsible journalism like this, and those that run with it as fact.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #90
147. if it was really solid there would be multiple leaks to make sure the story was
reported correctly.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:15 PM
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153. Halperin is also a Clinton watercarrier. Remember the heyjohn website that became
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 07:15 PM by blm
a huge news story the very day it launched, yet it was being touted as a grassroots initiative to embarrass John Kerry with an inaccurate smear?

NO grassroots website gets INSTANT DC PRESSCORPS coverage the morning it launches.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:21 PM
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166. Like this....?
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:00 AM
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2. He should have done something weeks ago! I voted for Edwards but
I'm not happy that he has been sitting on the sidelines while these two bloody eachother and our chances to win in November. What the hell has he been waiting for?
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:43 PM
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155. everyone on this blog is in a rush to judgement....
Edwards has had a lot on his plate the last couple of months, least we forget he just lost his father-in-law not to mention his wife's health problems. You pass harsh judgment on Edwards based on an assumption. I'm still not certain of why he suspended his campaign. I do suspect he was strong armed by the DNC maybe even Dean for the "good of the party". If he does endorse I for one would like to know his reasoning before passing judgment. I too voted for Edwards and neither one of the frontrunner's has tipped the scales for me. That said, I also remember the 1968 elections and voted in 1972. We are so busy blaming each other for the "he said she said" and making statements like I won't vote if Obama/Clinton (depending on who you support) wins the nomination. The Re pugs just love all this divisiveness that is tearing our party apart. I personally think they have a hand in it. This article and my memory of 1972 pretty much explains my reasoning. Many on this board have forgotten who the real enemy is. We as a party refuse to learn from our history.

"Buchanan’s strategies were Rove-esque before Karl Rove had even graduated from high school. Buchanan and his top aide recommended staging counterfeit attacks by one Democrat on another, arranging demonstrations and spreading rumors to bring down the opposition, fouling up scheduled events, all the while being careful not to arouse the suspicions of authorities. Nixon was elected in 1968, and Buchanan went with him, becoming a White House speechwriter and advisor."

"Keep an eye out for Buchanan ’08. He’s still a bundle of anger, outrage, aggression, intolerance, and he’s not done with America yet."

http://www.campusprogress.org/tools/282/

Ask yourself who does Buchanan work for and where do most of the "he said she said" smears originate? Both Obama and Clinton have been kept pretty busy defending what they or someone in their campaign may or may not have said leaving little or no time for the issues.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:38 PM
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169. Whatever he says now, it's too little, too late.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:00 AM
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3. hopefully Richardson will counter it and officially endorse Obama
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:02 AM by book_worm
frankly I think Edwards, who I supported and like very much, waited too long. He may have had more impact if he endorsed prior to Super Tuesday. Yes, NC is coming up but I don't think it will make a huge difference there. Obama is ahead and I think the state will go strongly for him.

The interesting thing is that Obama is winning many super delegates and others who had initially supported Edwards. The Iowa results are an indication. Almost all of the Edwards delegates in Iowa who switched went to Obama, not Hillary.
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:20 AM
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37. That is why Edwards is now letting it be known...
...if this is true, and he wants the delegates to go for Hillary
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:59 PM
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146. Too Late.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:21 PM
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160. Not all some are still committed to Edwards
Delegates hold tight for Edwards
Democrats get largest convention turnout they can remember.
By CHRISTINIA CRIPPES

ccrippes@thehawkeye.com

Despite suspending his campaign, presidential candidate John Edwards fared well at the Des Moines County Democrat convention Saturday.

The former North Carolina senator held on to nearly two-thirds of his delegates. During the Iowa caucus in January, Edwards finished behind presidential candidate Barack Obama with 61 delegates. During Saturday's convention, he maintained 39.

"John Edwards suspended his campaign; he did not abandon it," said Sandy Dockendorff, who spoke as a surrogate for Edwards in Des Moines County. "He's talking with both Sen. Obama and (presidential candidate) Sen. (Hillary) Clinton to see if they can find agreement on issues that are so important to Sen. Edwards."

Dockendorff shared with the Edwards delegates that they were not required at this level to choose either the Obama or Clinton camp.

Henry County Democratic Chairman Dave Helman said Edwards delegates had a half-hourlong discussion during the realignment period about what is best for them to do.

"There was a greater commitment to Sen. Edwards and what he brought to the campaign, and they didn't want to leave that yet," Helman said.

When the surrogates spoke, all were unwavering in their support for whichever senator ends up as the Democratic nominee.

"We started in three groups, and we'll probably leave here in three groups, but in November, we are all Democrats," Dockendorff said.

http://www.thehawkeye.com/Story/Democrats-031608
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:00 AM
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4. Twedclint is dead to me...
Let's wait to hear what Edwards' official word is.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:01 AM
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5. How do Edwards supporters feel about this?
I don't believe this...
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:03 AM
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6. As an Edwards supporter
it surprises me, I suppose Hillary offered him something quite lucrative. It doesn't change my mind.
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jlpohio69 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:06 AM
Response to Reply #6
11. Edwards was my fist choice....
and Hillary my second, so if he endorses her, it does not change anything for me. Would love to see a Clinton/Edwards ticket.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:13 AM
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91. OMGSH OMGSH
that ticket would be so wonderful! I too was for Edwards and now Hillary and that ticket would rock! Though Clinton/Obama, Obama/Clinton, or Edwards/Clinton ticket would have been awesome too. I think this year has been amazing at how many great candidates we have!
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #11
148. Me too!
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. Will believe it when I see it...
I am an Edwards supporter but will make that statement past tense if he would do such a thing. HRC is too tied into corporate America... I can't see Edwards supporting her unless... putting on my tin foil hat here... unless he is being forced to...
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #7
38. Yeah, I hear they are going to waterboard him?
WATCH out...hide...leave the country...they may waterboard you too along with the rest of his supporters. Clinton needs to get those delegates by hook or by crook.


:sarcasm: In case some loony with no sense of Humor thinks I'm serious...and those loonies do exist.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #38
50. and Nancy Pelosi is now the new Saint for bashing Clinton
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #50
63. This is the same Nancy Pelosi
that sees no reason to impeach
the war criminals in the white
house. Her judgement is flawed
to say the least.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #63
129. Obama also told the Rthugs that he won't impeach bush either.
What people won't do for votes. Not mush mention of this on the corp MSM

Not much flack about it on DU because Obama supported it and Obama can do no wrong. I can't believe Obama supporters don't want to impeach bush*...I'd say that is quite a flip flop.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #50
157. It does seem like yesterday the majority of DU had a big hate for her.
damn we are a fickle lot.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
132. I don't believe it, either. n/t.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:05 AM
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9. I am fine with it. More than fine.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:07 AM by JoFerret
If he does this he will have made a courageous decision. I will enjoy hearing his reasoning. I think it will have to do with getting the job done for the American people. the economy, jobs, education and especially health coverage. That and bringing the troops home and ending these dreadful wars. Hillary is the one who can do that if anyone can.

And I am glad he waited.

And furthermore, let's wait to see if it's even true.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:05 AM
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10. I was for Edwards prior to his quitting race and I prefer to wait rather than take one of
Tweety's pundits word for it. If it happens, that's his choice but he seems to be going against the will of many of the people who supported him. Heck, he opened and closed his campaign in Louisiana a state Obama won big. In Iowa yesterday at conventions delegates who broke away from him went to Obama--not Hillary. I know many former supporters like myself who went to Obama. Obama won Edwards birth state of SC and is ahead in NC (and don't think a Edwards endorsement would change that). But to each his own if he wants to come out for H that's up to him. I think it's about a month too late to do any good though.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:11 AM
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Ditto, hell will freeze over first
I just don't see it, unless, like a previous poster mentioned, Edwards is being bribed with a big fat carrot. Quite honestly, I don't think his endorsement will mean much, and I don't think Richardson, or Biden's will either at this point. JMHO :shrug:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #10
133. This could be hilaryland psych ops..they've done
squirrelier ops.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #5
32. I think it would go against everything his candidacy was about
But, then maybe it really wasn't after all. Did Hillary give him the better job offer?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:17 AM
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34. I don't believe it....IMO, I can see Tweety spinning this bullshit...
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:18 AM by Hepburn
...for a selfish reason like ratings.

JMHO
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #5
93. I support Edwards. If he supports Hillary, I will chaulk it up as a mistake on his part. All
of us make them, including Edwards. He is not god afterall.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #5
134. I'll be very unhappy
if he does and take him off my avatar, I'll still be strongly committed to Obama all the way.
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
144. Confused. I could see certain issue alliances between him and Clinton.
Health care policy, mainly. But if he were to endorse her, why not earlier when it might have helped? How can Hillary end up being the nominee with the race all but decided?
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #5
150. I don't believe it either nt
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #5
154. I'm an Edwards supporter and I absolutely hate it.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:05 AM
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8. Was he waiting to find out what his supporters would do in the new round of Iowa caucuses?
If so that should of settled it.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #8
44. Considering what Iowa did, if Edwards were to endorse Clinton
Obama might end up with the majority of Edwards remaining delegates (which are only a handful anyway).

If Edwards frees his delegates, he cannot make them vote for Clinton. A lot of them may find the Clinton campaign repulsive.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:06 AM
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12. he'd better wait since his Iowa supporters went to Obama
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #12
31. That was my first reaction to reading this.
:hi:
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:06 AM
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13. I thought he might endorse Clinton, if he endorsed anyone at all. Reaon is...
I detected a beneath-the-surface disbelief that an Af. American could get elected. Elizabeth said so, actually, without hesitancy, when a journalist asked her if she thought America was ready to elect an Af. American. Without pausing, without skipping a beat, she said, "No." She could have paused, she could have said, "I'm not sure," she could have said, "I don't think so." But she didn't. She was clear and definite. "No," she said.

I figured that she and John were very close on feelings about different things, and that was his feeling, too.

I think the Edwards MAY endorse now because with the pastor debacle, they see the Clintons as the likely nominee winner. Whereas before, they thought Obama might win the nomination, but they didn't want to endorse HIM, so they didn't endorse at all. But things have changed.

I'm guessing that if Clinton wins (no, that won't happen....McCain will beat Clinton, I'd guess), she has agreed that Edwards will be A.G.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. good god, JRE and Elizabeth are racists now too. When does it end.
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jlpohio69 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #17
29. Why is everyone who does not support Obama....
labeled as a racist??? Does it ever occur to any of the Obama supporters that non-support of Obama has nothing to do with his skin color...good grief!!!
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #29
54. Why is it that new posters on here bring up race?
Not calling names, but a word that rhymes with soul comes to mind.
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jlpohio69 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #54
110. Ewww....I'm new...so my opinion must not mean as much as yours...
oh great 1000+ poster...get over yourself. Funny how you Obama supporters are all for the "new, younger vote", but a "new" poster on DU obviously does not know what they are talking about...guess the same could be said for all those "new" voters that are backing Obama.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #110
145. Good for you.
You make a very, very good point and I hope you continue to make it every time you are attacked.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #29
77. Excuse me, ONE person made this comment

Please don't generalize.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #29
105. You need to ask Elizabeth Edwards why she thinks that way. I just reported what she said.
If you have a problem with it, you need to address it w/her. I'm just the messenger.

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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #17
66. Why are you calling him a racist?
The person you quoted certainly didn't. READ IT AGAIN.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #17
84. I don't think the poster was saying the Edwards are racist....they just pointede out what Elizabeth
said. If she said that she doesn't believe an African American can be elected president that doesn't make her a racist, it's just her opinion. You made a big leap on this one..
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:32 PM
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106. Exactly. I just reported that Elizabeth didn't think he'd be elected. Not that she....
didn't think an Af. American SHOULD or SHOULD NOT BE elected.

If they have a problem with what she said, they need to ask her about it. I just reported what she said, and based on that, I surmised that the Edwards wouldn't want to endorse someone that wouldn't be elected.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #17
104. Hey, I didn't say that America wouldn't elect an Af. Am. Elizabeth Edwards did. nt
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Alenne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #17
119. you are the one who called them racists
The OP didn't.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #17
121. Don't know where it ends
but apparently it begins as soon as you declare for Hillary.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #13
33. the pastor "issue" doesn't have legs.
as much as HRC supporters on DU hope it does.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #13
35. You know what they say . . . birds of a feather . . .
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #35
116. As in........
Pastor Wright and Obama. How true!!!
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #13
164. I was wondering how long it would take to get to a "John Edwards is Racist" post
Just 13 posts. I'm not shocked at all.

And you threw Elizabeth under the bus as a nice bonus too. Good for you. :thumbsup:
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:06 AM
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14. I don't think Edwards is going to support Hilary
Might be more of a very hopeful trial balloon being sent up

We have seen the Hilary campaign use the back door more then once already and I feel we are seeing that once again. Just try to think of the positions Hilary and Edwards were aligned on. Then try to think of the positions Barrack and Edwards are aligned on.

Edwards is uniquely positioned to get some of his agenda on the platform. I hope he keeps up the good fight
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:06 AM
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15. Might have helped Hillary BEFORE yesterday in Iowa. LOL
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:07 AM
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16. Edwards is a petulant person. Obama did not offer him the VP and he's taking his shrinking
ball and going home.

What a hypocrite!
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:10 AM
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19. Hold on now
this is still a rumor at this point, until he comes out and says it and if there's evidence that he did it because of the reason you mention.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:10 AM
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20. How much do endorsements matter?
Clinton still has to flip a insurmountable number of supers.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:50 PM
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139. But the "delegates" Edwards has
could be instrumental in helping her, no?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:10 AM
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21. How much do endorsements matter?
Clinton still has to flip a insurmountable number of supers.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:10 AM
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22. but did Hillary? She keeps trying to get Obama to be VP
maybe she will have two VP's :) afterall she likes to keep changing the rules.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:32 AM
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97. Look. Your jumping the gun. He hasn't endorsed anyone. Rumor does not make it true. HELLO!!!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:06 PM
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103. "petulant"? Okay, whatever.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 12:08 PM by WinkyDink
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:05 PM
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123. What a fool you are to make such an assumption.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:13 PM
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151. The mind reading capabilities of Obamanation strike again
Maybe he remembers the attacks on him from St. Obama?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:09 AM
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18. A loser endorsing a loser
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:10 AM by high density
Works for me.

(Losers in the race sense of course.... hah)
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:11 AM
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23. I am not going to place any importance on a rumor
We have never seen the 50 delegate 'bomb' that Brokaw all but promised us. I'll believe it when I see it.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:12 AM
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25. Yeah, before we start throwing out invectives
that may alienate potential supporters (like the ones that gave obama 9+ delegates in iowa) let's hear what the man himself has to say
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:11 AM
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24. Fortunately, Edwards' delegates have free will
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:12 AM by C_U_L8R
and they're willfully going Obama.

Besides, I really don't see Edwards supporting The Clintons.
They represent totally opposite values.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:12 AM
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26. A little late leaving the gate there
might have come in handy yesterday in Iowa....

dg
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:13 AM
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27. too late, I already switched to Obama
his announcement won't affect me.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:21 AM
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39. Glad to have you aboard.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:13 AM
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28. I refuse to say anything bad about Edwards
no matter which way he goes-he was my guy and I still wish it would have been him but Obama is now...whatever HE chooses to do is fine with me and will not sway me to Clinton anyway...he has lost a lot of his power and has been reduced essentially to just another super delegate and not a leader of some movement like he was before-maybe he knew this and maybe that was the reason he HASN'T endorsed anyone yet
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:16 AM
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30. Consider the source.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:20 AM
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36. Didn't we hear similar endorsement rumors before?
Recall the saga of the "secret meetings"?

It seems like the M$M is trying to find more ways to stir up a pot because the other manufactured controversy has run its course and there's a long gap of time before the PA primary. I may be completely wrong but it seems to me that being that he was once the Senator of North Carolina, that he would wait until either just before or just after that primary happens and then go on and do his endorsement. Now doesn't seem to be the time to have much impact, again given the PA primary is 6 weeks away.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:24 AM
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40. It could be a pile of bull for all we know at this point, but its sad that the Edwards
are being thrown under the bus already by some for an endorsement that hasn't yet been made.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:27 AM
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42. DUbamas will stop at nothing, apparently.
They ready to throw anyone under the bus, at the first sign of a rumor that that someone isn't supporting Obama.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:40 AM
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59. What are you talking about? nt
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:40 AM
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60. What are you talking about? nt
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:40 AM
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61. What are you talking about? nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:25 PM
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127. Who is throwing Edwards under the bus?
What I've seen is surprise, and dis-belief. If Edwards chooses to endorse anyone, that is his business. Throwing good democrats under the bus is a Clinton Camp Tactic. I think that most Obama supporters are not that mean-spirited, or dismissive of good people.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:41 PM
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136. I don't believe it..I think it's hilary's
psych ops. We'll see before too terribly long.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:26 AM
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41. looked at tape:it was Richard Stengel,managing editor of Time,
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:28 AM by Algorem
He said Edwards will endorse Hillary Clinton,probably before North Carolina,possibly before Pennsylvania.Stengel said it's according to Mark Halperin of Time's "The Page".

I don't see it on there-

http://thepage.time.com/
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:54 AM
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74. no transcript or video yet on thechrismatthewsshow.com
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:03 AM
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78. looks like they just put the video on
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 10:05 AM by Algorem
http://www.thechrismatthewsshow.com/index.php

it was the last thing on the show
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:28 AM
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43. One DLC candidate endorsing another.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:28 AM by Skwmom
What a surprise. Edwards was always the DLC created populist.


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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:04 PM
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142. "DLC created populist" - that's like saying,
"The Oscar-Mayer-created ice cream." Not possible. Anyway, if he were DLC, he'd still be in the race.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:29 AM
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45. Hillary must've promised him the Attorney General position in her administration.
What a freaking whore John Edwards has turned out to be.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:57 AM
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89. your insulting him on an endorsement that hasnt even happened yet?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:45 PM
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137. Yes, but since it seems hilary has lost
what would that net Edwards but a bad rap?
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:30 AM
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46. I don't think it matters
I think his supporters have mostly made up their minds. I don't think it will hurt in North Carolina because from what I have read, Edwards was not very popular in NC towards the end and would not have been reelected to the Senate. Obama was never going to win PA so I don't think it hurts him there. Now I'm not sure about states such as Indiana. Who knows? I'm not worried though. Now if he did it before Super Tuesday I would have been VERY worried. LOL Even though I'm an Obama supporter, I still like Edwards regardless of who he endorses. He has a right to say who he prefers just like everyone else.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:31 AM
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48. Before speculation, I would wait to see.
If so, he has free will and that's that. However, if he waited for the convention, his ideas would have more impact in shaping the candidates unless he is angling for VP and a deal.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:31 AM
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49. 43 replies to "apparently that's the rumor" with no source?
not do discredit anyone here but is there any more than this to go on?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:34 AM
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53. It was on the round table
at the end of Tweety's show. There is no link that I'm aware of, but if it is not sufficiently well documented for you, please click the x to ignore the thread.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:35 AM
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55. I don't want to ingore the thread, just a better idea of the source
thanks for shedding a little more light on it. :)
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:32 AM
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51. I find it ironic that all the Edwards supporters I know here in Oregon have since gone to Obama.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:33 AM
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52. He endorses Clinton, he endorses her campaign tactics
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:34 AM by Upton
my view of Edwards will change drastically. Anyway, does it really matter?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:36 AM
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56. Can he direct his delegates?
Or are they free agents? Could they impact the outcome?
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:40 AM
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62. IMO, endorsing HRC wd make little sense. 7 of JE's delegates already are Obama's
(in Iowa), and Edwards only has 19 left. If Edwards endorses HRC, and his delegates in other states follow Iowa's lead, JE would look foolish, and his political influence in the future would be diminished.

On the other hand, if he endorses Obama, and most of the 19 follow the same cues that the Iowa 7 followed, Edwards would be able to say in the future he helped ensure Obama's almost inevitable victory.

Why would Edwards jump on a horse that's bringing up the rear, rather than the frontrunner? He'd be undermining his own political influence.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:41 AM
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64. She made him a better offer?
Is the only reason that I can think of.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:41 AM
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65. She made him a better offer?
Is the only reason that I can think of.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:04 AM
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79. I agree, it makes no sense.
See my post #76 below.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:44 AM
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67. Probably during "Tell Me Something I Don't Know"
that awful segment of the show near the end when reporters dish very unreliable political gossip. With two candidates, it has a 50% chance of happening, but I think it's more reporters guessing what might be up than anything.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:47 AM
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72. Yes! And I just posted below that that is all it was. It was just one person's wild guess
and nothing more.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:45 AM
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68. Look at all the people on this thread jumping to the wrong conclusion
Tweety's show did not make the case that Edwards was going to endorse Clinton.

All that happened was in the tiny part of Tweety's show, "Tell us something we don't already know", one of the pundits simply made a personal prediction that Edwards would support Clinton based upon nothing other than his opinion.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:46 AM
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69. Ah, rumors.
I'll believe it when I hear it from Edwards. Until then, that's all it is...a rumor.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:49 AM
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73. Not even a rumor. It was just a wild guess by one of the panelists
during his segment "Tel me something I don't know".
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:27 AM
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87. True that.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:33 PM
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108. Thanks mtnsnake,
these gossipy rumors have a life of their own on DU.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:47 AM
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70. I'm skeptical, because this seems to be an OPINION, not a scoop
I could be wrong. However, if true, that's fine with me. I supported Edwards, now supporting Hillary.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:47 AM
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71. Look at all the people being led to the cliff
and jumping off under free will...on a rumor...from TWEETY

get a grip..this same rumor was floated when Ohio was coming up

bad behavious from both sides in this thread
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:56 AM
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75. I'll believe it when I see it....
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:02 AM
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76. This makes little sense. Let me explain with a few points.
** As of yesterday, his campaign spokesman(s) were asking his Iowa delegates to stick with Edwards. He had more delegates in Iowa than anywhere else. Half of his delegates stuck with him, half went to Obama. Endorsing Clinton before the Iowa county conventions would have been the ideal time to endorse, not after.

** His most highly publicized Iowa supporter, The first lady of Iowa, officially endorsed Obama. If Edwards is planning on endorsing Clinton, I can't for the life of me understand why the Culvers have endorsed Obama. They are very tight with Edwards. Culver's Chief of Staff used to work for Edwards. His wife ran the Edwards campaign in Iowa.

** During the campaign in Iowa, most of the behind the curtain negative campaigning came from the Clinton camp. We all knew this.

** The majority of former staffers, who are now working on other presidential campaigns, are with Obama.

John Edwards ran on the America Rising theme. This was based on the influence that corporations have in on our country's politics. He was very much against this and time after time, called Clinton out for her acceptance of corporate money. The only thing that I can think of that they had in common was their views on health care.

IF this is true, then what it shows me is that Edwards feels that Obama's negatives are higher than Clinton's. It won't be because he thinks Clinton is all that impressive.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:05 AM
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80. Damn, that was a good post, Inspired.
Right on and righteous and right on some more.


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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:13 AM
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85. Thanks, OC.
You are kind to say this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:48 PM
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138. Thanks for your perspective on this, Inspired..
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 05:48 PM by zidzi
good info I didn't know. Imo, there's no way Edwards could get Obama's "negatives" being higher than hilary's.

I don't believe this for one second. I didn't believe it weeks ago and I don't believe it now.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:06 AM
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81. Wild speculation. Yawn.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:07 AM
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82. We'll see...
This is just rumor - Edwards was rumored to be just about to endorse Obama a few weeks ago.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:09 AM
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83. Heard That
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 10:10 AM by Me.
Don't know if I can give it full credence as it came out of the mouth of Mark Halperin, the Time editor who recently put up a pic of Obama as a rat on Time.com

To clarify: Stengel said it, but he said it came from Halperin
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:17 AM
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86. Believe when I hear it and see it...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:15 AM
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92. I somehow doubt that:
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:25 AM
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94. I suppose it is the most likely one wiht Kerry on Obama's team.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:25 AM
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95. I suppose it is the most likely one wiht Kerry on Obama's team. Wiser to wait see what he does.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 11:26 AM by barack the house
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:26 AM
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96. DIsgusting, I guess big business wins out, Edwards is a hypocrite if he does this
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:39 PM
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135. ...
:eyes:
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:33 AM
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98. holy s--t. i will fucking die. :D
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:33 AM
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99. i bet it's a ploy so he has to come out and say "no i don't endorse hillary".
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alydar Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:55 AM
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100. This doesn't really make political sense
Right now, the race is stalemated and an Edwards endorsement is not going to change that. Second, the clearest indication (last night in Iowa) is that Edwards' supporters are breaking mostly for Obama. Third, Edwards' comments in the debate that the only two "change agents" in the race were he and Obama. As "change" was Edwards' campaign mantra, I suspect most Democrats would discount an endorsement at this point as the result of some sort of quid pro quo (i.e., an AG nod). I suspect Edwards' endorsement could have some effect on the North Carolina primary, but likely not enough to move it into Hillary's column. Finally, there has always been talk that Bill and Hillary did not do enough for (or even subtly sabotaged) the Kerry-Edwards ticket in 2004. I would think if there was any truth to that suggestion that Edwards would support Obama, or not endorse anyone at all.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:57 AM
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101. wondering about this since Obama went to the Edwards' house to
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 11:58 AM by Algorem
talk endorsement. there was that video from a news helicopter above the house and it seemed like there was some bad body language between those two.

got impression they no like each other long time.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 12:04 PM
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102. Edwards endorsement rumor #58
:boring:
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:33 PM
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107. Who cares about Edwards? For a guy who has won one state in 8 years, he sure gets alot of attention.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 03:36 PM by NJSecularist
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:41 PM
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118. Even as a supporter I don't get it...
I liked his anti-corporate stance, but I don't see why his endorsement would be such a big deal.
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:46 PM
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109. I think John Edwards
would make a hell of a attorney general under a Hillary Clinton administration. I also heard that statement, it was the segment of "tell me something I don't know" Chris Matthews Show. It could be rumor, or not, we'll see. I am upset that Edwards, Richardson, etc. didn't come out sooner. Guess John Edwards was waiting for the best offer.

The Obama supporters are so totally naive to suggest that only Hillary negotiated with Edwards, don't kid yourselves, Obama and his campaign were "negotiating" with Edwards too. That's politics. When will it get thru that Obama is a just a politician, plain and simple.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:51 PM
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111. Trippi said last week that he probably would not endorse
http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/trippi_edwards_wont_endorse

Granted, Trippi may not be in Edwards' inner circle anymore...he might not know what Edwards will do.

I have heard rumors from inside sources that Edwards was leaning toward Clinton though...shortly before Wisconsin I heard that he wanted to endorse her but only if he thought she wasn't too far gone. So it did not happen after Wisconsin because Obama trounced her there and it looked like it was over for her. But now that her campaign is showing some new signs of life it's possible. I hope Trippi is right though.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:58 PM
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112. I don't believe it, and the longer he waits, the less it is worth.
If he is truly concerned about his Populist message, then he wouldn't endorse Hillary. If he does endorse her, it means she promised him a better position, IMO. I do not understand, however, why he wouldn't back the candidate that has views closer to his own, is actively seeking change in the fundamentals of Washington, and is most likely to win and be able to offer a job.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 03:59 PM
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113. I seriously doubt it. nt
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:04 PM
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114. What will Edwards discuss on Leno on March 20th?
http://mobetterchange.blogspot.com/2008/03/what-will-edwards-discuss-on-leno-on.html

What will Edwards discuss on Leno on March 20th?

John Edwards will be a guest on Jay Leno on March 20th. I wonder what's up?

An endorsement perhaps?
Posted by NCDem Amy at 2:55 PM
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:06 PM
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115. Could be huge. WTF is Edwards' problem?
This nomination process has been a disaster. Ugh.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:09 PM
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124. Edwards' Problem? He's a lawyer. Nuff' said. n/t
J
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:18 PM
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126. Huh? So are Obama and Clinton FWIW.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:53 PM
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120. Edwards would look foolish when Obama wins his home state. He
won't do it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:51 PM
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140. That's what I'm thinking..this
would be wrong on so many levels.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:01 PM
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122. Edwards, endorse Senator Clinton, you must be smoking dope. Put
the effin crack pipe down, that is not gonna happen. What is wrong with you Senator Clinton's supporters? Sheesh, give it up already!
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:13 PM
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125. Didn't Edwards endorse Clinton prior to Wisconsin?
I remember people saying on DU a couple weeks before Wisconsin that Edwards was close to endorsing Clinton.

Oh wait, it didn't happen?

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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:27 PM
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128. An Edwards endorsement of BO ends HRC.
An Edwards endorsement of HRC has no effect. His delegates in Iowa already went to Obama.

I call BULLSHIT on this report. Edwards is more astute than to throw away his endorsement.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:30 PM
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130. That would indeed surprise me, because he's been hinting for a month
or more that he would toss his delegates to Obama.

Either candidate is probably deserving, but I read Edwards differently.

This will be interesting to watch.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 05:52 PM
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141. If he does endorse her, it will prove that he was always the phony people suspected.
I'll wait to see if it's actually true, but living in North Carolina all my life and seeing how edwards (little 'e' on purpose) used his senate seat as a stepping stone to run for prez, I wouldn't put it past him. If he does endorse her, it's because he's been promised some position in her cabinet. The only good thing edwards is doing now for NC is in being one of the highest property tax payers in the county with his Chapel Hill compound.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:55 PM
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158. Exactly! and that he is always wrong!
He was wrong on IWR, wrong on the Patriot Act, wrong on the Bankruptcy Bill and now...

When Edwards was in a position of power, he got it all WRONG which is why, despite his words, I could not support him. If this rumor is true, he has shown himself continually WRONG!
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:11 PM
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143. He's going to endorse someone who's already lost the nomination?
It's all over but the counting, why would anyone endorse Clinton now?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:07 PM
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149. nah,,,,,
n/t
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:14 PM
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152. Another former progressive hero hung by the Obama mob
How long is that list now? What a "uniter" obama is! :sarcasm:
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Zee Miller Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:02 PM
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167. Oh, yes.
They hung on Paul Krugman's every brave word for years till he tried to debunk their televangelist hero.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 07:49 PM
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156. Edwards is always wrong and apologies are not enough
He was wrong on IWR, wrong on the Patriot Act, wrong on the Bankruptcy Bill and now...

When Edwards was in a position of power, he got it all WRONG which is why, despite his words, I could not support him. If this rumor is true, he has shown himself continually WRONG!
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:21 PM
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159. As an Edwards supporter
I hope he does endorse Hillary Clinton. If he decides to stay on the sidelines that is ok with me too. If he endorses Obama then I will be disappointed but I will respect his decision but it won't sway my choice which is Hillary


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metalluk Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:52 PM
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162. Edwards will endorse
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:35 PM by metalluk
one or the other before the PA primary. I don't pretend to know which one and I doubt that he knows yet. He met with Clinton last week and will be meeting with Obama -- tomorrow I think.

He is said to be strongly conflicted. He prefers Obama's emphasis on change but he prefers Clinton's policy positions on health care. Both candidates have been courting Edwards heavily, so apparently they feel it could be influential.

Despite what some posters claim, there are several scenarios remaining by which Clinton could win the nomination, although the odds favor Obama by about 80:20. An Edwards' endorsement for Clinton impacts one of the more plausible scenarios: a big win in PA followed by a close win in North Carolina. That would give her some strong momentum going into IN, WV, KY, and a MI re-do. Edwards could obviously help her in NC. If even 3% change sides due to Edwards' influence, that could be the difference between a Clinton win and an Obama win. The latest polls show Obama up by +4 or +7, which is hardly insurmountable.

Edwards will not only endorse one of the two, he will campaign for him or her.

If he gives the nod to Clinton, it will be because of doubts about Obama's readiness and policy positions. And since Edwards' decision will have come after "much soul searching," people will be listening closely to what he says about his reasons. If Edwards questions Obama's experience level, people will begin to listen.

Both campaigns have been courting Edwards heavily, not only by personal visits to his home, but also by acknowledging him in recent campaign rallies and paying lip service to some of his ideas -- such as ending poverty in America. Both campaigns clearly understand the importance of an Edwards endorsement.

Clinton would also be significantly damaged if the endorsement goes the other direction.

An Edwards endorsement will have an important impact.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:24 PM
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163. You Obamites are laughable
None of you knows or understands Edwards at all. Quite understandable since Edwards is as PROGRESSIVE and as exemplary of the LEFT-WING of the Democratic Party as you can get.

Of course, TRUE core Democratic beliefs escape you. Of course you wouldn't understand them if you are an Obama follower, as you all believe rubbing noses with Republicans is just fine. Why lets get downright "bi-partisan" and put the CONSERVOSCUM in the White House.

Well, I know Edwards could never reconcile with anyone who would put Republicans in any White House, so Hillary would get the nod any time over Obama.

The funniest part is how sure you all were he would ever back Obama. You praised him then...attorney general you all clamored, don't you remember?

I do.

All I can say if Edwards DOESN'T back Obama is ......WELL DONE , SIR, WELL DONE!!!
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Zee Miller Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:05 PM
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168. Agreed! The fighter should endorse another fighter!
What on earth persuaded any of these fools to back another shyster "uniter?" Just when it was our turn to demolish the failed corporate rightwing tactics!
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:17 PM
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165. Hallelujah! The sooner the better. Good for Hillary. Thanks John Edwards.

I believe Wright changed everything. John Edwards is a patriot. :patriot: I do believe he will make this endorsement.

I hope he makes the announcement about a week before PA and hits the trail for her too.

John Edwards is a good man and a great asset for Hillary to have in her corner. I for one am grateful to him.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:42 PM
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170. GREAT!!! Woo Hooo, Thanks John!
You won't be sorry:)
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:52 PM
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171. I don't see how this benefits him
It seems he'd be better off staying neutral at this point.
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