Shame on Keith Olbermann

[dsc]

and his despicable smear. Yes Maura Harty was ambassador to Paraguay and yes she was appointed by Clinton to that post. But what one, count it one google search yielded was the following information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Harty

Maura Harty (born c. 1959) is the current United States Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Consular Affairs, a post she has held since 21 November 2002. She is a career Foreign Service Officer, though the Assistant Secretary position is a presidential appointment. In November 2007, Harty announced that she will resign the Assistant Secretary position and retire from the Foreign Service in February 2008.

Harty is a native of Staten Island, New York. She graduated from New Dorp High School in 1977, where she was elected "Most Likely to Succeed" and "Class Citizen". Harty received her bachelor's degree at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service, where she was a member of the Mu Alpha chapter of the service fraternity Alpha Phi Omega. She began her career with the Department of State in 1981 as a vice-consul in Mexico City, Mexico.

Harty went on to serve several tours in Washington, DC, including tours as special assistant to Secretary of State George Shultz, executive assistant to Warren Christopher, and Executive Secretary of the Department. She served abroad as the U.S. Ambassador to Paraguay from 1997 to 1999.

During her tenure as Assistant Secretary, Harty has overseen the introduction of new security regulations in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks. In her position, she serves as primary liaison within the Department of State and the Department of Homeland Security's Customs and Border Patrol and Citizenship and Immigration Services on security and visa issues.

end of quote

She is a career foreign service officer who began her career under President Reagan. Incidently, this would be just like Ambassador Wilson who was appointed by Bush 1 to be Ambassador to Iraq when he was a career foreign service officer. To present this as some sort of Clinton crony who had gotten an ambassador post for donating money is sleezy, shameful, and purely disgusting. Shame, oh shame.

edit to correct the error I had which was so thoughtfully pointed out

[SoonerPride]

1. What, are you daft?

"To present this as some sort of Clinton crony who had gotten an ambassador post for donating money is sleezy, shameful, and purely disgusting. Shame, oh shame."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


He didn't imply anything.

He said Harty worked for the Clintons.

That was it.

[dsc]

5. that is still a lie

She worked for the US Government, not the Clintons. She wasn't some political hack getting a plum ambassadorship. She was a career foreign service employee doing her job.

[SoonerPride]

9. How is it a lie?

He said "she was appointed by Bill Clinton."

That's it.

You are tilting at windmills here.

[dsc]

22. that is like saying

that wilson was appointed by Bush. He was in a purely technical sense but you and I both know the implication Keith was spreading with that. And it was totally, utterly, and facially dishonest. It is just like when I said I was between women if asked if I am dating. It is a technically true statement (I dated a woman before and might again) but it is totally dishonest.

[SoonerPride]

32. I think you're seeing ghosts

There is no there, there.

[sudopod]

97. Ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the President

At the time it was President Clinton.

*shrug*

It would be no different than saying Secretary Cohen worked for President Clinton.

[K Gardner]

14. NOBODY SAID THAT !! Where the hell did you pick up that line? He never even IMPLIED that.. his

whole mention of her related to her role at State v. job as Ambassador for Clintons. What part of that DONT you understand?

God almighty.

[Name removed]

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[K Gardner]

26. Most all of what else I see here is IGNORED, so I guess yeah, its the regular crew :-)

[anamandujano]

82. Obamatrons are bragging that Olbs take on this helped turn Bama's

downward spiral around.

Insinuations go a long way in politics, as you well know.

edit to add link to thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5185141

[JoFerret]

105. I read it on DU

And it sounded credible given KO's Hillaryphobia and divisive anti democratic party rants.

[damndude]

33. he drew no such inference but instead

stated what was one of the main questions on everyone's mind, namely, who was the person in charge of these individuals committing these violations. i think it is valid to mention the fact that she has within the past month retired and that she was an ambassador in the clinton admin. it's truth. that fact that a link to hillary can now be drawn may only be coincidence or it could lead to something real. we won't know until investigation.

[papau]

68. KO tried to smear Hillary - again - and should be fired

[wrando]

102. fired twice

once out of a canon

he looks more foolish by the night, and I predict off the air before long

bill from ct

[BlackVelvet04]

67. Maybe you should tell your fellow Obama supporter that...

since he posted a thread entitled: OMG Clinton person linked to Obama file breach. Per KO

[JoFerret]

104. yep

it was stupid.

and KO is a ranting pundit.

[roguevalley]

94. Marta Harty is the goombah that helped fuck up the

passport debacle a while back -- remember that? -- and got hauled over the coals for it:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003754941_passport20.html

She would be placed to deal with passports. She is assistant secretary of state for consular affairs (passports and visas are a major part of that brief)

She is placed. She has a history of incompetence in her department. Not too far fetched. I will wait for an independent investigator. Facts will be nice.

[JoFerret]

103. and he said that because and to the effect that ....?

.

[polichick]

107. Exactly - he didn't jump to any conclusions.

[JohnnyLib2]

2. In all fairness, KO may not know about GD:P.

Somehow, I'm reminded of Osama and the cell groups which wait for the signal.....

[KittyWampus]

40. GAH! hahahahahahaha I don't know why that struck me as so damned funny!

:rofl:

[Muttocracy]

56. LOL! oh, we try to feel important, don't we... nt

[better tomorrow]

3. I'll bet Andrea Mitchell got him some new info.....

remember, she left the program to "go make some more calls".....

[K Gardner]

4. WTF??

[AX10]

6. Keith Olbermann is the left's version of Bill O'Reilly.

[VolcanoJen]

11. OK

:rofl:

[jillan]

16. Exactly! Spreading rumors; cherry picking info to make a point.

No wonder why Anderson Cooper ranks #1 among progressives.

[AX10]

21. He is somewhat less offensive than KO.

[Usrename]

58. You guys are kidding, right?

Cooper is a Rovian shill. Don't you remember when he tried to mug Sen Landrieu over the Katrina response?

Instead of getting Brownie or Chertoff or Bush on the carpet?

Did you miss that whole thing? During his report about dead bodies floating everywhere four days after the storm?

He actually tried to blame the horror and shame of the Katrina aftermath on Democrats. Don't you remember?

Landrieu threatened to punch the President in the nose? What did your buddy Cooper say about that?

He's a devious piece of filth, as if he had no idea that Landrieu was the one responsible for getting the funds and planning for the evacuation routes that saved about a half a million lives. Cooper is a CIA-trained disinformation specialist. It's just disgusting that so many people fall for it.

[Horse with no Name]

23. There is a day that you and I would have gone to the mat for that statement

Sadly, it is true.
I think he wants to be obama's Press Secretary.

[AX10]

30. Most likely.

[Skip Intro]

35. I've pretty much lost all respect for him. I used to email YouTubes of his Special Comments

off to repuke friends, stood and applauded him various times in my living room, but I doubt I'll ever watch his show again.

He's let his bias overwhelm his objectivity.

I really just don't care what he has to say anymore.

[AX10]

39. I would feel no sorrow if he lost his show.

[Liquorice]

81. I agree. That's why he and O'Reilly are battling all the time. Two sides of the same coin. nt

[gmudem]

88. What a ridiculous comparison.

Just because he's spoken up about the lies of your candidate of choice doesn't mean he's anything like Bill O'Reilly. Grow up.

[crankychatter]

98. The "Left?"

There is nothing radically left about olberman

You want "left" or progressive you can't even get CLOSE on Television

You define left as anti-Bush or now, anti-Clinton?

Who are YOU aligning your self with?

be ashamed

IT'S NEWS

It's just not news you LIKE.

[Avalux]

7. So you can make a judgement based on her bio?

I think we all need to wait to see how this plays out. She isn't a worker bee that's for sure; she's held some fairly lofty posts. Why on earth would this woman be snooping in Obama's passport file? How do we know she isn't connected to the Clintons? She was doing it for a reason, not for some vague curiosity and that's what needs to be uncovered.

[KittyWampus]

43. She wasn't doing the snoping. She's responsible for covering up the 1st two, IIUC

she was the one immediately in charge and didn't notify any higher ups that security had been breached.

She fired the 2 actors and thus they can't be called in for questioning.

[Avalux]

46. Oh my.....

if she is connected to Clinton, this is really, really bad.

[jillan]

8. What IS wrong with him? His show has become like a tabloid show.

No wonder why he was always getting off on stories about Brittney and Lindsay.

ewwww.

[grasswire]

15. yeah, he was wayyyyyyy too excited tonight

I had to turn him off. And I'm a big KO fan and he knows it.

[Mags]

28. I posted this about Olberman when his show started tonight, I knew with out a doubt that

he would blame Clinton. I had my clock cleaned by the BO fans, but I knew he would finally place the blame on Hillary,because he is on a crusade for BO. When BO loses, he will not have a spot on msnbc, who would listen to his crap after this election cycle.

[jillan]

49. If he is spreading rumors of this magnitude

he'll be gone alot sooner.

[LulaMay]

99. I knew he'd do it too. Her can't contain his bias for Obama and Hillary hate.

[wisteria]

89. You are entitled to your opinion, but I wouldn't consider news, political guests and commentary

Tabloid fluff. I don't always agree with him and he does let his bias show once in awhile, but he has been fair in reporting on Senator Clinton and he calls things as he seem them in his commentaries. The man is entitled to his own opinion. That is not grounds for firing.

[JoFerret]

10. KO has lost all credibility

.

[SeattleGirl]

12. Oh please.

KO said only that she had a tenuous tie to the Clintons. He did NOT say she was spying for Hilary. Go find another hole to dig, will ya?

[BlackVelvet04]

65. then maybe obama supporters shouldn't start threads like...

OMG Clinton person linked to Obama file breach. Per KO


You guys act like a bunch of damn alcoholics....spew a bunch of shit and then claim the other person is crazy for saying you spewed a bunch of shit.

so, OH PLEASE back at ya.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

71. A Clinton person IS linked to the Obama file breach.

A Bush person, too.

:shrug:

[americanstranger]

80. That poster self-identifies as a Clinton supporter.

Go ahead, ask her. I did.

- as

[JVS]

101. That was one of your people

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. Maybe I was watching Olbermann in an alternate universe

but I didn't hear him say anything negative about this person -- he said she was an ambassador in the Clinton administration, which is true, and that she manages the department responsible for passports, which is also true. Maybe I missed the other part.

[K Gardner]

19. He didn't !! LOL.. The Clinton Camp here is obviously hallucinating and since the OP thought

he'she heard something, the rest of em are chiming in like its true. Forfuckssake.

[dsc]

36. I am referring to this thread

by one of your supporters in which your supporters said exactly what I said. So go call them delusional.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5184124&mesg_id=5184124

[K Gardner]

45. That OP is a HILLARY supporter. I don't see anyone saying what you said and certainly KO never said

it..and the title of your post is directed at Olbermann. He only linked Maura to the Clintons and to the Breach. Nothing about ambassador posts for favors/money, nada.

[Cha]

72. I'm ignoring that poster so

it's not an Obama supporter.

[Catherina]

96. Neshanic is a hardcore Hillary supporter

How many times are you going to embarrass yourself in your own thread?

It's weird how you guys manipulate facts at will and how your thought and decision-making processes work. Really weird.

[Ichingcarpenter]

24. I'm more interested in the name of the subcontractors company

which I think will be more revealing. However that being said the
woman is the Liaison between State and Homeland Security on passports.

[SoonerPride]

37. KBR

or Halliburton itself. why not?

[Ichingcarpenter]

50. I was getting a lot of hits with subsidiaries of the Carlyle Group

that had contracts with information handling at STATE. The three separate occurrences
by subcontractors got my alarm up.


Now, if she was a Reagan hire and continued under Bush then Clinton that might explain
something about her competence or loyalties.

[Horse with no Name]

17. He has really fallen

I wonder if he is auditioning for obama's Press Secretary?
The ONE thing that I loved about KO was his ability to tell the truth from both sides.
I thought his best draw was that he was non-partisan...even said he didn't vote so he could retain that.
I don't mind him slamming Dems OR Republicans...what I mind is his incessant obsession with Clinton, while given Obama a pass on everything.
I know he is posting over at DKOS these days...what a mistake that is.
He has lost his objectivity.
He might as well become a political hack...because all he is now is a yack-hack.
Creating very loose ties to cast suspicion. Quite a lot of folks will listen to that and drag it back to their dens and chew on it for weeks.
Then, without anything else other than a loose association, it will become truth in echo chambers like DU.
Me? I turned him off when I caught him in a lie and he didn't correct himself.
If I want lies...Fox is much better at it.

[AX10]

25. Kos has shown their collective hatred for HRC in the same...

way the FreeRepublic shows their hatred for her.

[Horse with no Name]

38. Yep. And KO is their waterboy.

He carries the lies and misperceptions to the teevee.
I'll tell you one thing.
My mom does NOT know places like DU exist.
She has ALWAYS adored Chris Matthews...much to my ire. She liked KO...but not nearly as much as Tweety.
Last time we talked, she told me she turned off MSNBC altogether because of their continually negative
coverage of Hillary.
Me too.
There isn't a news channel out there that graces my house.
The one lining is that I am on the television advisory board at NBC.
I SIMPLY CANNOT wait for the next questionnaire to come out. I definitely WILL voice my opinions on this subject.

[AX10]

48. Waterboy is the highest achievement that Olbermann...

is capable of achieving.

[goclark]

57. Morning Joe is on MSNBC and he and all his little

group of shills are all for Hillary.

They have put down,laughed at Obama since way before Texas.

[Horse with no Name]

61. Your point?

He is a hack too.
I have standards.
I want someone to tell the truth ALL THE TIME...not just some of the time. Joe doesn't.

[goclark]

77. My point is that Morning Joe and his gang

are all hacks.

They all speak the truth as they believe it to be.

Their truth doesn't happen to be my view however.

[JanusAscending]

41. TRUTH ?

"You can't take the truth"!!!! Why would Keith all of a sudden start compromising the truth??? He's discussed Obama's shortcomings in the past few days with truth, do you believe that was truth? I do!!

[Horse with no Name]

47. I don't watch him anymore...sorry

When he refused to correct his lies...I had no use for him anymore.
If not for THIS thread, I would not have known about this instance.
He is a partisan yack-hack for obama.
That doesn't serve anyone's best interests.
And...people outside of the blogosphere have noticed it too. The chickens will come home to roost on this subject and I won't be sorry to see him go.

[JanusAscending]

76. Unfortunately for you,

he used to be a Clinton supporter, and close to the Clinton family. Then when he saw the dirty campaign she was running, it upset him very much, and he took off the "kid gloves"!! He won't be going anywhere soon. His ratings have made MSNBC # 1 among the cable news shows, so don't hold your breath. He still has INTEGRITY that most other talking heads don't!! per example TWEETY !! Now he's a piece of work that loves the sound of his own voice!!

[Cha]

20. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

It's okay for Obama to undergo days of smears ..but one little hint that this harty worked for clintons and you're all over it, dsc. Can ya say?.."there no hypocricy like Hilary Hypocricy."

[dsc]

44. I have defended Obama against smears

and yes I will provide examples if you insist. I defended him against that video with the nut who accused him of being a gay drug user. I defended him against the Ferraro crap. I defended him when that idiot from BET called him a druggie and I defended him when Shaheen did the same. Can you say you did the same as you accuse me of hypocrisy?

[Cha]

60. Good! I apologize, sorry.

I missed them and no, I don't need proof.

[JVS]

27. Maybe these political dynasties in the WH aren't such a bright idea. To many chances for corruption

[Johnny__Motown]

29. He said she started in 1981, he gave a brief summary of her resume beside the ambassadorship

I think you are reaching.

[americanstranger]

31. You better hope she's not involved.

If she is, Hillary is gone and you're gonna look like an idiot.

- as

[apocalypsehow]

54. The OP's already got that latter point covered.

n/t.

[meow mix]

34. its obvious that Obama manufactured these incidents, to distract us from our Wright Loops!

oh noes!

:sarcasm:

[helderheid]

42. Series? You are screwn.

[Spiffarino]

51. And there is nothing in your OP that eases my concerns

The woman is an upper-level official in the State Department. If she is involved it is reasonable to suspect she may have had an ulterior motive beyond mere curiosity, and since she is a Republican appointee I am even more suspicious.

[dsc]

69. that wasn't the point of my OP

the point of my OP was that the woman isn't a Clinton appointee in the sense that KO made it sound like she was.

[Berry Cool]

52. Another person who can't even spell Keith's name, yet KNOWS he is shameful and evil.

Oh well, guess it's time for another "Keith is dead to me" thread!

And don't forget, he doesn't know jack about anything because "He's not a journalist--he's JUST A SPORTSCASTER!" :sarcasm:

[dsc]

55. If you are going to correct spelling, and be snotty about it

then you might, just might, want to make sure your sig line is grammatically correct. The word is affect, not effect. Affect is the verb, effect is tne noun. Again, you started the grammar contest, not I.

[Berry Cool]

85. The man's name is spelled with two N's. You consider pointing that out "snotty"?

And I did make sure my sig line was grammatically correct.

The word is "effect," not "affect."

AskOxford.com
Commonly Confused Words

These are some of the pairs of words that are most often confused with each other.

DO NOT CONFUSE

...affect and effect: affect means 'make a difference to', whereas effect means 'a result' or 'bring about (a result)'.

http://www.askoxford.com/betterwriting/classicerrors/confused/

In my sig line, KO is quoted as talking about "effecting political change." He means "bringing about change," not "making a difference to change." Hence, the correct word is "effect," not "affect."

He got it right; the editors of the book I quoted got it right; I got it right.

The grammar contest is hereby finished.

[Berry Cool]

92. Oh, but I will add to this:

Thank you for fixing the spelling of his name, even if you insist upon heaping shame upon him.

[EFerrari]

53. Shame on you for smearing Keith for doing his job. n/t

[mtnsnake]

59. Olbermann is the King of Spinnerama. Hillary could rescue babies from a burning building and

Olbermann would make her sound awful for doing it.

Olbermann was halfway cool before he chose sides in the Democratic Primary, and then he started dorking out tremendously against Hillary.

[OzarkDem]

62. He's either dishonest or

doesn't have staff to fully research something before he opens his mouth.

[AZBlue]

63. Why do Clinton and her supporters always want to "shame" those who tell the truth?

Weird.

[Europeanblogger]

74. The truth? The truth is that this lady is on George W. Bush's payroll, not Clinton's

K.O. is a joke, just like the other MSNBC "analysts".

[Cha]

95. But, you disrupted poorly.. so

what do you know?

[Life Long Dem]

64. Shame shame shame on u Keith, just shame on you, there take dat!

[Dinger]

66. That Thread Still Has NO Substantial Link. No Proof, None

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5184124&mesg_id=5184124

[tridim]

70. I'm going to laminate this thread. It's a classic!

:rofl:

[Europeanblogger]

73. Expect the Daily Howler to call Olbermann on this gaffe tomorrow

K.O. has become unwatchable. Only he would link a Bush employee to Hillary Clinton.

[Patsy Stone]

75. Enjoy your stay

And tell Bob Cox hello.

[Berry Cool]

79. Yeah, like that Howler idiot is half the man Keith is.

Sitting there in his pajamas and slippers blogging about how "worse than useless" Keith is.

Envious much, Mr. Somerby? Maybe, just maybe, Keith is "worse than useless" to you because he doesn't INTEND TO BE USED. PERIOD.

[IndianaJones]

78. Olbermann strikes me as a typical white person. nt.

[Major Hogwash]

83. Hillary has moles in the State department that still report to her.

Moles that were appointed by Bubba.

You think that isn't possible?

Then you've been eating too much government cheese!

[workinclasszero]

84. Will Passport-gate spell the end of Hillary Rodham Clinton?

God I hope so! How long before the Congressional hearings and investigation begins??:popcorn:

I don't believe Hillary has been sufficiently vetted yet!:rofl::evilgrin:

[wisteria]

86. Oberman is the closest we have to representation in the media. I don't always agree with him,

but we don't need to fire one of our own. Isn't that like shooting yourself in the foot?

[Mezzo]

87. I don't always agree with him either, but he was over the top this time.

He should apologize and give that the same amount of attention that he gave the accusation. That'd be fair.

[wisteria]

91. I watched the first show and saw no accusation. n/t

[Berry Cool]

93. Because he made none. None on the second show, either.

He simply said the word "Clinton" and all of a sudden, he's evil. :shrug:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

90. K&R

[Dinger]

100. I Point To Shuster More Than Keith

He "drew the first connection . . ." (Per K.O.)

[anigbrowl]

106. Interestingly, the page was edited this morning....

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maura_Harty&diff=199822029&oldid=199772132 which also removed this line:

"Harty is Supervisor of the Consular Affairs office which was implicated on March 20, 2008 with illegally accessing presidential candidate Barack Obama's passport file folder."

Draw your own conclusions.

[DemBones DemBones]

108. KO has jumped the shark. He's as bad as Tweety now. nt