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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:54 AM
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Shouldn't Hillary start trying to salvage her reputation and her Senate seat?
I am being serious. She is risking permanent damage to all that she has worked for. If her intentions are to undermine the party in hopes of a another chance in the future (if McCain wins due to a divided party) won't she go down in history as the Great Divider II (# 1 being buSh)?

New Yorkers, is there signs of buyers remorse in your state which could jeopardize her senate seat?
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:55 AM
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1. Strange, I was thinking the same thing about Obama
He'll be lucky to get a job selling used cars when this is over.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:57 AM
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4. Hahaha...Oh that was funny..n/t
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:58 AM
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5. You mean after all the positive campaigning Hillary has ran against him?
Yeah, she's obviously the one coming out on top because of her wonderful campaign.


:rofl:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:01 AM
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7. What about the videos showing her "embellishments" (plural)? or the "Tonya Harding" comparison
picked up by the media? You don't think it will be referenced in the future?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:31 AM
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15. So was I.
I don't think my husband who is a Used car manager would hire Obama to sell cars. :evilgrin:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:56 AM
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2. If she doesn't get the nomination
her senate seat is hers as long as she wants it.

She's not damaging anything - she's simply running against your guy, which some of you seem to think is a crime.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:01 AM
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6. You really believe this?
Her "fuck you, if I can't have it nobody can" attitude is ruining the party.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:05 AM
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8. Just like her henchman Carville, there comes a time when you realize they're putting their
own self interests above the party and country. The DLC are part of the MONEY PARTY, that transcends party lines.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:13 AM
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11. Not only do I believe that
I believe if anyone has done serious damage to the party, it's Barak Obama.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:56 AM
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3. Her reputation is fine. At least, nearly half of those who've voted in this campaign seem to say
. . . with their ballots cast in her favor.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:05 AM
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9. Mark my words mom
there WILL be a progressive movement in 2 years to get her senate seat into the hands of a TRUE democrat-we learned a hard lesson with LIEberman-now we have Clinton headed right over the same cliff
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:11 AM
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10. I plan on
sending money to her senate primary opponent in New York - and I live in Idaho. I think she will make a very good former senator and former first lady.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:28 AM
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13. Whatever
If she is "LaMonted" she can run third party and guarantee she or the Republican wins... She and only she determines who will occupy that seat in 2013...
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:44 PM
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17. Right...
The Clintons always did detest all those pesky citizens making their voices heard at the ballot box. Its no crime if I help a real Democrat take a seat in the Senate. Her DLC-ness is so pro elephant it stinks.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:25 AM
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12. Obama got 43% of the vote here in NY! He damned near came close to 10%
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:31 AM
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14. Thanks for posting that...
I've been wondering the same thing.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:38 AM
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16. No signs whatsoever of "buyers remorse" Hillary is well respected and admired in NY
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 09:41 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
(If you are still undecided today then here’s a thought: If you want ‘change’, and we all do, then you have to have a change agent that knows the system and has the contacts to create that change. Perhaps my thoughts as to why I desided to support Hillary Clinton will be helpful.)

Since I am grounded in Practical Politics, my first concern in any election is winning.

Whoever we pick as the Democratic nominee will be attacked as if they have stinking, slimy baggage by the Republican Party, the nominee and, more importantly, the slimy political world that surrounds the GOP. These ‘independent’ organizations have a sole purpose: to attack relentlessly, in the most vicious possible ways, the Democratic nominee. There will never be a ‘clean’ candidate that is exempt from their attacks.

Who, then, I began to think is best equipped to handle the vicious, continuous attacks that the other side will launch? So who could best stand up and fight?

Hillary Clinton has, as she has said, taken this incoming fire for 15 years or more. Ken Starr spent $75 million of our tax dollars digging for dirt to use against her and he came up empty handed. She’s had her patriotism questioned, her sexuality questioned, been accused of being a murderer, been accused of much more and yet she’s still a leading candidate for the Democratic nomination.

She’s tougher than boot leather while having a human side. Those are assets that our candidate needs. Hillary Clinton has developed thick skin and the ability to remain calm in campaign combat. Yet, she also knows how to listen to the American people.

Qualifications? She’s a successful, liberal US Senator. She’s won a Senate election that was none too clean by fighting back and campaigning in all the non-traditional places in NY. She went to conservative, Republican based northern rural areas and won them over with smart policies, substantive talk and the fact she simply listened! In that most unlikely of places, she won with 67% of the vote. And then in 2006 she won re-election.

I like that she sticks to policy and not continuous personal attacks when she talks, but I also like that she also takes the time to listen when she’s campaigning. (I can testify that having a candidate disciplined enough to force herself to listen to others when it would be so much easier to rush to the next event is unusual in itself.)

I am convinced that Hillary is strong where others, including Barack Obama, would be weak and inexperienced. She will fight the filth machine of the other side with vigor and calmness. She knows how to outmaneuver them.

She’s a warrior. It’s a term seldom applied to women. Yet being a warrior is what she’s been from her Watergate committee staffing experience, through several terms as the First Lady of Arkansas, working on multiple corporate boards fighting for equal rights for workers and women and during her years as First Lady of the US traveling the world. She learned first hand in those travels the foreign issues and realities. Hillary Clinton has made the personal contacts that are will be so valuable in the White House. She has consistently fought for the underdog and the American people. She was a warrior without anyone using the term.

Hillary Clinton knows how to form coalitions on Capital Hill to get the job done! She has, that ‘bad’ word this election cycle, ‘experience’. JFK, perhaps one of the most inspirational speakers in his day, had 8 years US Senate experience and had taken a run at the Vice Presidency in 1956. He knew government from the inside.

JFK was not an outsider condemning the system and all those in it. If you want change in government you first have to learn how to operate from the inside to get the laws and policies changed. We learned this time and time again from JFK to Bill Clinton.

Hillary Clinton, to use her term and much to my surprise, is ‘my gal’. I voted for her twice for Senator, President in the NY Primary and will do it again in the general election.
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