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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:53 PM
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New questions raised about top Clinton advisor
March 26th, 4:45 pm
Hillary Clinton called on to explain 60-year association with herself

Candidate's ties to controversial politician may spell trouble for campaign


SCRANTON, PA - Following several questionable "misstatements" about her trip to Bosnia, Hillary Clinton is once again being asked to justify her continuing affiliation with her campaign's most controversial figure, Hillary Rodham Clinton. Many supporters and political commentators are starting to wonder aloud why Senator Clinton has continued this relationship when it seems to be the source of so many of her problems.

"This is not just some random confidante," said Clinton expert and close friend Richard Mellon Scaife. "It's no secret that Hillary Clinton is probably the most important person in Hillary Clinton's life. There really is no one else that even comes close. She should have expected that she would come under increased scrutiny, especially when she's been causing this many problems for Hillary's presidential campaign."

For her part, Senator Clinton addressed concerns in a press conference today. "I fully reject and denounce any offensive statements that may have been made," said the candidate. "But honestly, is it really fair that I be held accountable for everything said by me over 35 years of public life?"

She continued: "Did I know of my tendency to make untruthful statements in the past? Yes, I did. But so far, no one has been able to prove that I was even present when those things were said."


Hillary Rodham Clinton (left) attempting to distance herself from
controversial statements made by Hillary Rodham Clinton (right).


Clinton confidant James Carville was less than sympathetic. "She's a Judas!" screeched Carville. "After all the things Hillary has done for herself over the years, I can't believe she would betray herself in such a cowardly and unprofessional manner."

Aides contend that Clinton has been trying to cut ties with herself for years. They point to her heavy use of consultants, her forced speeches and manufactured tears as examples of recent attempts to develop a more acceptable persona. They are also quick to point out how unlikely it is that Hillary Clinton will play more than a token role in any upcoming Hillary Clinton administration.


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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:58 PM
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1. You can pick your friends.....
you can't pick yourself....
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:12 PM
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7. I call that a Doozy!
:rofl:

Even when you're "tuff"!

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:04 AM
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22. hee hee -- love that pic
:rofl:
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:12 PM
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8. reminds me of that old SNL skit...
you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose...but you cant pick your friends noses.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:33 PM
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44. Was that really SNL?
There's gotta be an earlier source for that one.

(Sorry, I'm a bit of an amateur snot historian.)
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:13 PM
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9. Nice Picture!
Why must I act like that? Why must I chase the cat?

Nothing but the dog in me.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:58 PM
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2. As Much As I Like Raunchy Humor, I Like Clever Humor Even More
K&R
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:38 PM
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45. I hate it that we have to choose
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:04 PM
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3. Heh. Very nice!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:09 PM
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4. heh -- great minds and all that ;)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:11 PM
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5. Is that hilary on the right..
photoshopped?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:12 PM
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6. I don't think so.
That pic has been floating around the net for at least a few months.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:31 PM
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17. Pretty scary stuff..hilary is her
own worst as you so astutely pointed out.

One can only imagine which Obama transgression has got her goin' in that pic.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:52 AM
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24. I would love to know as well.
We know the source of the McCain "grrr" pic (Larry King Live), but I've yet to see where Hillary's "shock-and-awe" expression comes from.

I know in the full pic, she's reacting to something that a young woman is telling her.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:23 PM
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10. This is the exact kind of childishness that is uncalled for
I don't understand the childishness of these posters. Your the poster that called jlake a republican, posted a link to another site where he posts and I went and looked it over and it wasn't a right wing site, where you caused the thread to be locked. Your the kind of OP we don't need disrupting DU. Your very divisive and flame other democratic candidates as well as other DUers. There are very cordial Obama supporters that are adults and can carry on a perfectly adult conversation but you are not one of them, sadly.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:25 PM
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11. .


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:37 PM
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15. they let us out every once and awhile....just to annoy the adults
:bounce::crazy: :woohoo: :yoiks: :woohoo: :yoiks: :woohoo: :crazy::bounce:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:05 PM
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16. Oh, and once again: You are == You're
And why are you spamming drug ads in your sig?
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:20 PM
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26. I can't believe you have the nerve to admonish people for being childish and divisive.
Look at your own damn sig line.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:37 PM
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27. Divisiveness and hypocrisy don't count when you're in Her Majesty's Secret Service
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 12:38 PM by jgraz
Double-O Clinton and all that. Licence to shill.


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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:39 PM
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28. LOL!!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:14 PM
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70. .
Okay, now that made me chuckle.

Thanks, I really needed it. After that FOX interview stuff, I was in no laughing mood.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:27 PM
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74. Ick -- I can't believe you sat through that
At this point, Hillary has reached my "Joe Lieberman" threshold -- whenever I see her on the tv, I change the channel.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:28 PM
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75. I could only watch the first half.
After her snide tone started... about how he's run a campaign about (eeew) "empowerment" (eeeeew!)... I had to give up and just read the damn transcript.

:puke:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:33 PM
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78. I hate to say it, but at this point my interest is largely about seeing her get smacked down
After 16 years of Clinton bullshit, it's going to be incredibly cathartic to see them finally go down (no pun intended) for good.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:39 PM
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79. It's not so personal for me.
Just so long as the DLC stops trying to run this fucking party like they own it, that'll suit me just fine.

You wanna be a centrist Dem, go on with your bad self. But you DO NOT ACT LIKE YOU OWN THE FUCKING PARTY.

Sorry. Fucking assholes. They've got me so fucking pissed today. :grr:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:06 PM
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80. It's been personal for me since they swiftboated Jerry Brown
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:58 PM
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64. Ironic post of this thread. nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:31 PM
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77. No shit.
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 09:13 PM
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84. It's like freaking performance art or some shit.
I read this forum just to enjoy the irony and surrealism of it all.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:16 PM
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85. Oh, it's a performance, but it's far from art
I'm sure you've noticed that it's always the same band of determined Clinton holdouts who are stirring the shit here. Why do you think that is?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:25 PM
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12. here`s a good one to photoshop

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:27 PM
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13. Heh -- paging Swamp Thing
I suck at Photoshop
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:29 PM
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14. i type with one finger.....
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 08:38 PM
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18. Will she go after her for swiftboating herself?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 01:44 PM
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30. Where else?
She'll be helping McCain swiftboat Obama.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:02 PM
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19. zomg. This is classic
Well done, sir!

:rofl:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:38 PM
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21. Thanks!
:D

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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:10 PM
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20. "Hillary Clinton is probably the most important person in Hillary Clinton's life."
She's actually the only person that matters at all in her life.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:17 AM
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23. It's strange, then, that she seems to be so self-destructive
:shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:02 PM
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50. Dissociation. She's distanced herself form herself in her own mind(s).
Your satire, at bottom, is so very true. Her relationship to herself is so skewed that her relationship to anyone else can't go very well. That's sad for someone who has so much potential. -- Dr. Freud.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:42 PM
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58. It's one of the reasons I can't wait for her to be off the national stage
It's just kind of creepy and sad to watch her at this point.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:33 PM
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62. Agreed. n/t
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:12 PM
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69. Yeah...
... kinda like that crazy drunk person at your friend's wedding... you know, the one that is related to the bride/groom... the problem is that no one wants to tell them they are annoying and obnoxious, and everyone wants them to JUST LEAVE ALREADY as they are all acting out, dancing like a fool, gettin' sloshy with the adult beverages, and hitting on the taken men.

I just wonder how much more karaoke and awkward dances we'll have to endure before she finally goes home or passes out.

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:20 PM
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81. Crazy drunks would almost be preferable at this point
Well, except this one:


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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 09:09 PM
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83. Aaaagh!


Thanks for burning my eyes out...



There! Now we're even! :P
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:02 PM
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66. Actually, no...
... but I won't go into it here.

It's pretty http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/borderline-personality-disorder.shtml">BPD-y though.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:16 PM
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25. Hilarious n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:41 PM
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29. What the hell is this? We are assuming Hillary's guilt by association? Misogynists!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:48 PM
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31. She's clearly a bad influence on herself.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:06 PM
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33. True, and we must be careful about the company we keep. But hanging out with questionable people...
doesn't make you a bad person.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:20 PM
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37. Good point. From now on, I'll direct my criticism at that unsavory person she's associating with.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 02:49 PM
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32. Kudos!
That's funny as fuck.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:09 PM
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34. This is very Pogoesque: "I have met the enemy, and she is me."
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:14 PM
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35. Believe me, I think of that quote every time I log on to DU.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:22 PM
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40. ..
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 03:24 PM by Buzz Clik
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 PM
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42. Cool -- I'm keeping that one.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:20 PM
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36. And THIS should be the headline on "The Onion" this week..
Nicely done. ;) And nice picture! K&R
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:22 PM
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38. Thanks -- the comparison to The Onion is high praise, indeed.
:blush:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:22 PM
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39. I'm Hillary Clinton, and I deny this message.
there, is that better?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 PM
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41. Much better, thanks.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:31 PM
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43. Stop it.
Stop making me love you so much.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. heh -- welcome to the cult
here, have some kool-aid :hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:43 PM
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47. Whose skull should I drink it from?
Speak and I'll jump. :hi:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:04 PM
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51. We're going to dig up a TS'd Hillbot for ya
Any preferences? MagsDem? liberalnurse? jlake?

I'd suggest CyberPieHole, be that one keeps coming back as a zombie.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:23 PM
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57. jlake always looked tasty.
Although I think he's been reincarnated as a senior with busted eyeballs.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:32 PM
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61. Um...ew
:puke:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:04 PM
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67. Does this mean I'm out of the cult?
:-(
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:22 PM
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71. I'll have to consult with the space aliens in the comet
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:25 PM
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72. The wait is making me feel suicidal.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:26 PM
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73. Here, have some pudding while you wait.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #73
76. Too much sugar.
Is there any applesauce?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:49 PM
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48. Ha! What super writing.
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 03:49 PM by sfexpat2000
In a press release, the Clinton campaign noted the Senator's several lifetimes of crossover appeal. "She's Judas! She's Christ! She's Judas AND Christ". Neither Mrs. Clinton nor Mrs. Clinton were available for comment. The Senator is rumored to be in seclusion with the Reverend Billy Graham, who reportedly has been inspired to build a security wall around Boca Raton.

lol
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:00 PM
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49. heh heh -- that's pretty good
:D

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #49
53. We should put up a magazine. I used to write DF's political stuff
and miss that now. Still have the rolodex of political comics around here somewhere.

Thanks for the laugh. :)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:17 PM
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56. DF?
I know, it's probably obvious... :dunce:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:06 PM
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52. Hilarious!
Good post! :)

"She's a Judas!" screeched Carville. "After all the things Hillary has done for herself over the years, I can't believe she would betray herself in such a cowardly and unprofessional manner." :rofl:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:34 PM
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63. Carville is such a stooge, he's easy to make fun of.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:07 PM
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54. hahahaaha! Is this The Onion?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:11 PM
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55. Nope, but thanks for the compliment.
:hi:
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:45 PM
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59. great work as always jgraz
:rofl:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:28 PM
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60. thx ;)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:00 PM
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65. Holy...holy shit. I...wow...man. I am in absolute fucking awe.
You are brilliant beyond brilliant.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:06 PM
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68. wow -- glad you liked it!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:56 PM
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82. Kick. (nt)
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