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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:39 AM
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what Kerry said about the type of vp he wants
actually, it's more about his opinion of how he wants the president/vice president relationship and roles to be.he said the clinton/gore president/vice president relationship was the best example of a pres/vp relationship that he wanted.

he said the president should be the one in charge, the decision maker, the one with most responsibility. he said that in the current administration bush is not doing the job of president and that it's cheney who is the one making the decisions and is in control.

but he also doesn't want the bush/quayle type thing where the vp can't do anything and doesn't know anything. he wants the president to be in charge, but he also wants a vp who can be partner in many things and knows things. someone he can trust to do a good job when he asks them to do something.


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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 03:16 AM
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1. I'm of the opinion that for a VP...
...if I were to choose, I'd want an "idea man" who could also serve as a bulldog. But I'd want to choose him, I wouldn't want the guy on my VP selection committee to end up convincing me he was the obvious choice. One would have to be a real moron to fall for something like that. I mean, you want those serving in advisory capacity to be able to get the correct information to you, without pushing their own agendas. Especially since you are likely to select advisors and cabinet members from various high profile positions. And if you allow them to push their own agenda, they will. Bush's advisor and cabinet selection is a whose-who of "conflict of interest". It's like a prerequisite to serve.

I think I've pretty much given up on the concept of a President or titular "head of state". It's just begging for problems. Roll back the Presidents power to a Constitutional level. The President should be a figurehead, our "chief ambassador", not King.

But we so do love Celebrity...

Reagan was a bad actor. There are other bad actors waiting in the wings. Think: George HW Bush was to Reagan as Dick Cheney is to George W Bush. Hand up the arse of the figurehead.

"Some people call you the elite. I call you my base. The "haves" and the "have mores"." - GWB

I don't know who Kerry is going to pick. It would be hard to imagine any scenario in which I'd not be mildly dissappointed, but it doesn't matter. Kerry will be a better, and safer, President than Bush. (i hope)
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 05:41 AM
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2. VP
Bush 1 picked Quayle so that the Pres would never be assasinated.

A VP should have the qualifications to be the Pres. I feel that Wes Clark fits that and would be great VP.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 06:53 AM
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4. Yeah, that was atop Quayle's VP resume
He appropriately spelled assassinated wrong, as you did.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 05:38 PM
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15. Hee hee. eom
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 06:25 AM
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3. Kerry's view according to ABC News (as if they know anything)
"Sen. Kerry has come to believe that the vice presidency is an extremely important and powerful institution, those close to the process say, and has established a central organizing principle for the search: the person he'll choose must be seen by voters as having instant credibility in all policy arenas and the capacity to assume the presidency without question. Those considerations, these sources say, is primary. They outweigh base political concerns, like who can help in what state and with what constituency."

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/TheNote.html
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 07:28 AM
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5. then Wes Clark has it sown up
n/t
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 07:35 AM
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6. That's my take
Assuming Kerry really said it and that he means what was said.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:13 PM
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7. He said it! He means it! And he'll do it!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 01:22 PM
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8. Indeed he does!
Kerry's requirements=Wesley Kanne Clark.
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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:28 PM
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9. Well that rules out
you-know-who-with-the-allegedly-pretty-smile.

I'm sorry, fans of he who shant be named, but that senator doesn't have instant credibility. Ahem.

I'm not going to say Clark - but, if those are indeed Kerry's words, then it doesn't sound like the Carolina guy, at all.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 04:32 PM
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14. It will be Clark. No doubt.
As the one who shant be named has ZERO credibility and experience in foreign policy.
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:31 PM
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10. did you ever notice how these types of threads
are magnets to we Clarkies???? :grouphug:
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:35 PM
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11. Works for me
I love a good Clark-love-fest thread. ;)
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 02:41 PM
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12. hi, jai!
:hi:
I never posted my photos from the May 24 event....hope to do it soon.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 03:33 PM
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13. Well hurry up!
We're waiting, fer cryin' out loud. :bounce:
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salonghorn70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 10:59 PM
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16. Gephardt
Well, you may not be excited about him or agree with him, but if you are looking at the ABC News definition, then I think Gephardt would meet those qualifications. I don't favor Gephardt, but I think he would meet the guidelines set out by Kerry.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:14 PM
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17. hmmmmm....Geppie................hmmmmmm.......
nahhhhhhh....
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