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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:29 PM Original message |
Barack Obama's political skills sorely lacking lately |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. You're a strange breed of supporter. Perhaps you ought to pack it in |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. No I expect a campaign to be run with tact and skill! |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Get a different candidate, already nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. well, genius |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
70. Obama does it the way Bush did it in 2000 and 2004 |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. And tell me what hillary has done right... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. I don't see where he lacks tact and skill. Sorry if he doesn't constantly |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I'm tired of the latest Obama misstep being "breaking news" on Countdown, etc. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. So...someone makes up an absurd story and lies about it, and that's somehow more |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
67. You are bordering weak..... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Absolutely right. Hell, sophisticated arguments about middle America worked for Adlai and Dukakis. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. "Sophisticated"? Is that an insult now, is it? Obama does pretty well with crowds, and |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. McCain and Clinton are doing the same - they're TIRED and it happens to even the most skilled |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. Dude - he is not (yet) |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:35 PM Original message |
Zere vill be no qvestioning of ze party line or you vill be SCHOT! |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. lol |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Technically, you only have a right to be... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
26. Actually, no one's more dogged at defending the appalling and absurd than Clinton supporters-- |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Uh. Non sequiter much? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. And I'm just commenting on the fact that Hillary supporters almost never |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Ah but ma petite cherie |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. C'mon, a girl can't generalize a little on a Friday night? I'm feelin' lazy. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Chelsea? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. LOL! Well, no--I wasn't thinking of her, but you sure want to place yourself |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Do a little search. This is typical. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. So he's a little weak kneed |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. I like to call him Chicken_Little83 |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Again, is it too much to ask that when you have a 10 point national lead and are closing in PA |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I agree it was a dumb comment, and it's frustrating. |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Hee. I'm so concerned that the sky is falling on the Obama campaign! |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Lately? Some of your examples while they may be valid are hardly "lately". n/t |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Since S.T., his skills have taken a dive n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Were you alive |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Oh CNN has a banner "Obama slams small town America" for an hour and.... |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. So |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. And your actual point is? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Oh well, Bill Clinton says black people are car thieves and YOU worry about some reasonable comment |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. She said that?! |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. What in the world have you been drinking besides Kool ade? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. switch to Fox... |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. He "masterfully handled it" by lying, just like Hillary "masterfully handled" her own lies. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Yeah, he "masterfully handled it". That why.... |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. What show on CNN had this headline? |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
6. Weak. |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. Off-topic: You like roller coasters and horror movies, don't you? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. Seriously |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. Not Condemming Farakhan? WTF is wrong with you? |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Read the transcript!! |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. You read the transcript - I think you are a concern supporter |
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rgbecker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Are you suggesting the electric chair, shooting squad, gas chamber or |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
21. Jump off the train dude.. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
32. It gives him the chance to make pithy rebuttals to himself. He's his own devil's advocate. |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. At least he doesn't have to lie about lying. I guess that's a good thing. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. "Obama's the political equivalent of junk food." |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Hillary is a bald faced liar. Obama is not. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Spoken as a true believer. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
59. No one has to infer what he 'really' meant.. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Well, that explains the endless discussion, then. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. or how about that... |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
47. Your "disappointment" and "frustration" are duly noted. Don't you have a pot or pan to beat? |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
49. He is tired, he has been practicing the 3 am phone calls |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. And Hillary fails to answer the phone while her family banks millions. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
51. And he s still ahead of Hillary... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
52. If his political skills are that bad, it means one of these are true: |
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celophan012 (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
60. Goolsbee's NAFTA comments were specially alarming |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. post em if you got em... |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
62. I hope you'll have better luck supporting the OTHER candidate. Obama is definitely not for you. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
65. He's succeeded in turning this latest "gaffe" around on Clinton. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
66. This is satire right? |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
68. Lately - Those Are OLD, OLD, OLD |
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eek MD (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
69. I don't want a president who's a politician... |
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