The Cost of Letting This Go On...and On

[babylonsister]

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/4/12/152937/395

The Cost of Letting This Go On...and On

by BooMan
Sat Apr 12th, 2008 at 03:29:37 PM EST


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I've said this before, but it really is true that Clinton's chances of being the nominee are actually diminished every time she is perceived to be unfairly attacking Obama. The reason? She can't win the nomination on the first ballot, and her chances of winning on the second ballot are hurt if Obama's delegates refuse to see her as an acceptable alternative. To become the nominee she needs Obama to implode, but she can't be seen as causing that implosion...especially in a way that is seen as illegitimate.

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PHILADELPHIA, PA - Hari Sevugan, spokesman for Obama for America, released the following statement in response to remarks delivered by Senator Clinton this morning in Indianapolis:

"We won't be lectured on being out of touch by Senator Clinton, who believes lobbyists represent real people and is awash in their money and who can't tell a straight story about her lengthy record of supporting trade deals like NAFTA and China that have devastated communities in Pennsylvania and Indiana. She won't change the broken Washington system that all too often leaves American workers behind, but Barack Obama will."

But the back and forth between the campaigns is not the point. The point is that Clinton is providing ammo for the Republicans and doing all she can to hurt Obama's ability to attract voters that we need in the fall. The reason this is intolerable is that she has no chance of being the nominee. I know that she may believe otherwise, but her delusions are not a legitimate excuse. If she has a 2012 strategy, where she hopes that McCain wins the election so she can run against him in four years, that is even less acceptable.

These attacks are a distortion of what Obama said, and certainly of what he meant. And the Clintons know this and don't care.

It's a scorched earth strategy and party elders need to step in and put a stop to it.

[depakid]

1. Waaa -they won't roll over give the nomination to my candidate!

That's the gist of any of a thousand posts like this....

[FrenchieCat]

3. No, it just means that some people are

extra selfish, because they think that this contest is only about them, and what they stand to gain, which in the end, will be, absolutely nothing.

[KittyWampus]

4. Obama is already the presumptive nominee. Just because some are too stupid or blind to see that

doesn't make it less true.

[depakid]

6. There it is again!

Go out and EARN the nomination by winning the remaining primaries. All the whinging just looks weak and lame.

[babylonsister]

5. So you don't care how damaging she is to the party or the presumptive

nominee? Because she's your candidate she can do no wrong? I think you should open your eyes and try to figure out what she's doing and how harmful it is.

[panader0]

2. I wholeheartedly agree that Clinton's attack on Obama will

hurt her more than him. Her reputation has already made everything she says suspect. For the majority that already support Obama, this faux flap will not matter. For the undecided, this manufactured outrage will turn them away from shrill Hillary.

[hayu_lol]

7. The solution to the problem is obvious...

time for Obama to drop out.

[monmouth]

8. It's quite simple really, a majority of people just don't like HRC and Bill

is becoming annoying and just as unlikable. If people don't like you, if they think you're a phoney and a pandering repug-lite, well, it's just time to pack it up and go home. There used to be a reason to like her until we got to know her. Ewwwwww.

[babylonsister]

9. And if by some fluke she's the nominee,

I cannot see that sitting well with the majority, especially if she does it by nefarious means.

[monmouth]

10. Exactly...n/t

[bvar22]

11. It is clear....

...that some people here would prefer another Republican president to Obama.

Mellon Scaiffe, Ed Rollins, Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, Grover Norquest have ALL joined the team that is cheering Hillary to Stay the Course in her futile campaign.






"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[babylonsister]

13. That's just a tad bit scary to me. We so need to get away from

that awful mindset we've been reduced to for so many years. Clinton will not beat McCain, and that's solely what they're banking on.

[nsd]

12. "It's a scorched earth strategy and party elders need to step in ..."

Yes, it would be great if the party had some wise women and wise men who could step in at this point, but who would that be exactly? Al Gore is probably the name that comes to most people's minds, but would even he be able to convince the Clinton machine of anything? I don't think so. I fear that we might be in this to the bitter end.

[babylonsister]

14. Read this; I need another source to confirm it, but we can hope:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3266229