Nader chooses Camejo because they "share the same goals for economic

[mzmolly]

and social justice" ...

So, they've decided to help elect Bush? :freak:

Tawk amongst yerselves. :P

[LandOLincoln]

1. So...has Camejo actually accepted? I thought the Greens weren't

going anywhere near Nader this time.

[mzmolly]

4. I dunno, I'd love to see him reject the proposition.

:shrug:

I'd heard the same thing, so I'm confused. My guess is Nader wants to use the GP to advance is anti-progressive agenda. I hope they dont fall for it this time.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

25. yes

i've known this was coming for about two weeks now. my friend in the nader office said it was going to be either camejo or laduke again. laduke decided to take this year off. she's supporting ralph, but is too busy with an environmental initiative and also has a few health issues, so they went with peter.

[The Zanti Regent]

27. Camejo did everything he could to elect Arnold

I will NEVER forgive that worthless asshole for sticking us with Steroid Boy!

[robbedvoter]

33. Bingo! he's experienced at helping GOP-ers grab power. hence, the VP

Nader made it believe he didn't care for the Greens. Seems I was right, it was the other way around. He'll soil their party once again.

[Dookus]

2. hehe

exactly.

I've long been sympathetic to the Greens. I've voted for a number of their candidates in the past for state and local office.

But never again. These stupid motherfuckers are just too damned dumb to deserve office.

[aquart]

3. But...but...they think good and noble thoughts.

And they know what everybody SHOULD do. Just like the neocons.

[mzmolly]

5. Not to mention Nader have never served in office, so he can say

as he pleases.

As President, I will end world hunger !!! ;)

[LandOLincoln]

7. I WAS a Green, for a few years anyway. But after

the 2000 debacle, I held on to my Green registration only because I was hoping for the chance to set it on fire and shove it up Ralph's...nose. :evilgrin:

[mzmolly]

9. I have a great deal of respect for the Green Party, it's Nader I take

issue with.

As Howard Dean said "This is not the year for a third party" ;)

[LandOLincoln]

18. "This is not the year for a third party," huh?

Neither was 2000.

[BootinUp]

19. Oh damn, you had to bring that up. ;-)

[mzmolly]

22. Your exactly right. But, it's harder to argue with in 04.

;)

[Forkboy]

6. Nader takes a dump!!!

Tawk amongst yourselves!

[mzmolly]

8. You know I love ya Forkboy....

:loveya: But things are heating up with the election drawing near.

I ask for your forgiveness in advance. :*

[Forkboy]

10. You have it,fear not

I ask for yours too :)

[mzmolly]

11. You have mine as well!

Love yer sig line! :toast:

[AP]

12. They won't be on any ballots anywhere, so, unless your write them in,

all they're going to do is increase knowledge of these issues.

[mzmolly]

14. I think they'll be on the ballots in swing states ...

especially if the GP is involved. :(

[AP]

16. I don't think they're on the ballot anywhere yet, and TX is the only place

where they're appealing so far. TX not only isn't a swing state, they're probably not going to win their appeal.

[mzmolly]

17. He's trying in Oregon as well, they're gathering on June 26th there.

:shrug:

http://www.votenader.org/ballot_access/

"Through the process of gathering signatures and overcoming the hurdles for ballot access we intend to build a grass roots foundation for the fall campaign. Ballot access, while a challenge, should not only be seen as an opportunity to make our democracy more vibrant, it should also be seen as an opportunity to organize your neighborhood, your community and your state."

[AP]

20. Ballot access--that's his thing now. I think they're planning on not

getting enough signatures, and then suing and losing their cases but all in a big effort to make people more aware of the issue.

We'll see.

I definitely wouldn't sign a petition for Nader if I lived in a battleground state.

But I think he definitely is a voice worth listening to. (I'll listen to eveyone's ideas -- I'm not afraid of a debate.)

[mzmolly]

21. I think he's a voice ... that's full of crap frankly.

I think he'll drop out due to lack of interest. I'll listen to ideas too, but I dont consider him a credible candidate for the Presidency.

[AP]

23. I don't think he's a credible candidate, but I do think his ideas are ...

...worth engaging.

And it troubles me when liberals try to discredit him without engaging in the ideas. It's sort of like cutting off your nose to spite your face, if you ask me.

[mzmolly]

24. His ideas are lofty and easy to assert when you've never held office.

Further, I don't believe he's trying to simply engage us in dialogue. :shrug:

[lanparty]

13. Why o why ???

Doesn't Nader run for Senate. If he wanted to sabotage ANY Democrat, it should be Joe Lieberman!!!!!

[mzmolly]

15. Well if he ran for Senate - he'd either lose or be accountable for his

actions. It's a lose/lose for a man like Nader.

[shivaji]

30. because..................

it is no where the same prestige as presidential run.
More talk circuit money follows a presidential candidate,
and that is how Nader made his millions.

Like they say.....JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY.

[dolstein]

26. The goal they share is destroying the Democratic Party

Fact 1: Nader cannot win the election.
Fact 2: Nader could affect the outcome of the election by drawing progressive votes in battleground states
Fact 3: There is no polling evidence to back of Nader's claim that he will hurt Bush more than Kerry


Does ANYBODY around here dispute these facts?

[fujiyama]

28. You're absolutely right

I'm convinced that these Naderites have their own suicidal messiahnic complex.

The only way to save the country is to destroy it according to these morons.

[mzmolly]

29. I can't dispute them...

"I'm a member of the Green Party, I'm very proud of being a Green," Camejo said. "But I am so happy to join with Ralph Nader in the broader coalition he is trying to build to present an alternative for this election that stands on principles of social justice, peace in the world and equality." ~ Peter Camejo 6/21/2004

Wow! Social Justice, Peace on Earth and Equal Rights for all! Great rhetoric. To bad these morons don't realize their not running for czar.

[zulchzulu]

31. St. Ralph picks ANOTHER weak candidate in his Journey to Assholedom

If I was Camejo, I'd steer clear of that stink.

[Gore1FL]

32. Does that mean they support

the end of choice?
tax cuts for the rich?

[DeaconBlues]

34. Nader is trying hard to get the endorsement of the Green Party

so he can be on the ballot line of all those states where the Greens are included. And the Greens are pig-headed enough endorse him (even though he has never said he was a Green, not even in 2000).

What happened to those overtures Kerry was making toward Nader?

[mzmolly]

35. I think we need to start a letter writing campaign suggesting they endorse

Cobb. :shrug:

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

36. indie kick

goo goo ga joob