Bush approval 51% says Brit Hume.........

[Merusault]

He quoted the stat from the CBS poll showing Kerry's lead down to a point, but didn't mention that the same poll has bush approval at 42%. I often wonder if fox's audience is made up of mostly right wingers, or if significant numbers independents and moderates watch it as well. Hopefully not.

Did anyone see the CBS evening news? Did Dan Rather report the 42% approval?

[salinen]

1. How cute and innocent

"I often wonder if fox's audience is made up of mostly right wingers, or if significant numbers independents and moderates watch it as well. Hopefully not."

Welcome

[Merusault]

6. Of course Fox is biased.......

I've been familiar with it for years now, but how influential are they and how diverse is their audience? O'Reilly factor and Hannity/Comes would probably only draw the freepers if they weren't loud, in your face, often entertaining shows (sometimes on a Jerry Sringer level). But the fact is that the network has gone out of its way, particularly in its primetime lineup, to attract the casual viewer.

[demosincebirth]

2. Maybe they're dyslectic

[lancdem]

3. Fox doesn't even have his approval at 51 percent

Bush's DISAPPROVAL rating is 51 percent in the CBS poll.

[luaneryder]

4. Faux is biased?! n/t

[codegreen]

5. ya just know they're gonna call the election for * again no matter what

it'll be funny, he'll be down 168 electoral points but... this just in! BREAKING NEWS!

[NWHarkness]

7. Even if it WAS at 51%

That would still be lower than any president who got reelected in the last 50 years polled at this point of the cycle.

Not the greatest bragging point, I'd say.

[louis-t]

8. Hey, love the English 'D'!

[LabMonkey]

9. Bush about 50%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls.html

42% is the odd man out compared to the rest of the polls.
Bush is likely around 50%, a bit of a grey area for re-election. 50% is considered a key number to be above.
Reagan, Clinton were above this at the same point in time according to gallup, around 55% I think. but did have lower approval ratings earlier in the year. Carter and Bush 41 were in the high thirties at this point in time. Bush 41 improved toward the end, I think getting above 50% but it was too late by election day, with Perot and all.
Gallup shows Bush at 48% slightly improving from last time.
The next Gallup will be a good indicator.

[gulliver]

13. Your link says the average is 48%. n/t

[LabMonkey]

14. Throw out the oddball.

I process alot of data, often times you see things that just dont fit. 42% doesnt jive. I think they may have polled ungregistered voters as well.

[progressivebydesign]

15. Bush polls highest with "likely voters"..

.. however, REGISTERED voters are the ones to watch.

[tritsofme]

19. Likely voters is what to look for in a poll

Only about 50% of eligible adults vote in a presidential election.

About 80% of registered voters will go to the polls for the presidential election.

And 95-100% of likely voters should vote.

[Gloria]

26. I just heard a discussion of polling and the consensus was that

"likely voters" doesn't really indicate anything solid this far out.
Gallup continues to use "likely voters" simply because they started out with it and just keep doing it.

Early in the fall, all the polls switch over to "likely voters"--this polling is more meaningful then.

[spooky3]

17. This link includes only polls that tend to lean toward Bush...

during the most recent period--except CBS (the lowest recent one here), which tends to be more in the middle most of the time. CBS is probably right in the middle this time too.

Other polls (middle to left leaning) are included in your link, but they aren't recent, and Bush has been trending downward for some time. For a clearer picture, try www.pollkatz.homestead.com.

[LabMonkey]

21. Several polls over 50% recently are excluded on pollkatz graph.

Go figure.
The highest they show at pollkatz recently is 50% according to the graph. Fox, ABC/Post, Harris, Pew, Gallup to name a few. going by the data markers toward the end, most recent polls.

The realclear list had several over 50%.
LA times, Annenberg, Battleground. Not listed on the pollkatz graph.

Pollkatz has excluded all polls above 50% for some reason.
Realclear included many of the pollkatz however.
Both lists are not complete.

[tritsofme]

20. November 1991 was the last time Bush41 had approval above 50%

Date 1-Approve 2-Disapprove 3-DON'T KNOW/REFUSED
11/24/1991 51.660 39.080 9.250
1/6/1992 46.010 46.840 7.160
1/19/1992 45.800 47.970 6.230
1/28/1992 43.960 51.580 4.460
2/2/1992 46.410 48.410 5.180
2/9/1992 43.930 47.760 8.300
2/20/1992 38.900 47.130 13.970
2/21/1992 41.550 51.080 7.360
3/1/1992 41.480 52.560 5.960
3/12/1992 41.260 46.950 11.790
3/22/1992 40.650 49.450 9.890
3/29/1992 41.350 51.310 7.340
4/12/1992 39.340 53.720 6.940
4/22/1992 42.030 47.840 10.140
5/10/1992 40.630 52.710 6.660
5/20/1992 41.280 51.630 7.090
6/8/1992 36.660 56.590 6.740
6/14/1992 36.830 54.620 8.550
7/1/1992 38.210 54.990 6.800
7/24/1992 31.310 59.900 8.800
7/26/1992 31.480 59.170 9.350
8/2/1992 29.200 59.820 10.990
8/7/1992 34.310 59.380 6.320
8/12/1992 35.300 58.090 6.610
8/14/1992 36.140 57.910 5.950
8/23/1992 39.740 54.190 6.080
8/21/1992 37.880 55.680 6.440
9/2/1992 39.400 53.800 6.790
9/11/1992 35.200 58.190 6.610
9/15/1992 39.210 54.770 6.020
9/20/1992 36.240 53.970 9.790
10/3/1992 33.500 57.970 8.530
10/14/1992 34.040 56.060 9.900
10/23/1992 37.050 58.850 4.100

[LabMonkey]

23. Bush 41 was over 50% by the end of his administration.

http://tinyurl.com/2tqvj

Bush 41 approval was climbing toward the end.
Not in time to help enough though.

[tritsofme]

25. I guess it climbed after everyone knew he was gone

Not because of any sustainable momentum that could have saved his campaign.

[Mike L]

10. I bet Burnt Humus did say that. Bush's approval rating is really probably

around 45%, but that's with the 'dead Reagan bounce'. I think it will be around 42% on election day.

ML

[OHdem10]

11. Fox has largest number of Republicans

but do have both Dems and Independents Having watched CNN earlier and MSNBC where their lead was "Bush has lowest numbers ever".Then when i saw Fox and that 51%, I did a double take. Of course they went to explain how terrible Kerry's numbers are. It is like being on 2 different planets. Since they do have Dems and Independents I hope these groups go to other sources.

[LabMonkey]

12. All polls here>>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls.html

[Jack Rabbit]

16. Applying the obligatory adjustment for Fox . . . .

it's 41%, in line with other surveys.

[Lefty48197]

18. Unfortunately for Bush, that poll was in the Faux news room

which shows just how much trouble Bush is in.

[tom22]

22. It's nearly over

Kerry will be up over 10 points by 9/1. It really is nearly over, except for the voting. The country has made its decision about Bush.

[LabMonkey]

24. Thats how you lose.

"It really is nearly over, except for the voting."

This attitude is how you lose elections.

There are about 1000 things that are still going to happen
between then and now.

At best its split down the middle.
At worst Bush has a slim lead right now.
You cant predict the future to make yourself feel good.
You campaign like tomorrow is election day, every
day, and you campaign like your behind and every
second counts.......because it does.

[newyawker99]

27. Hi tom22!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[TheStateChief]

28. The 51% job approval was in the new Battleground poll

but as Celinda Lake noted there has been no president re-elected with job approval around 51% this late in their term.