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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:32 AM
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Distrubing CNN poll.
Democrats, what will you do if your candidate isn't the nominee?
Not vote 15% 16877
Vote for the nominee 46% 52949
Vote for John McCain 40% 46303
Total Votes: 116129

http://www.mlive.com/forums/newstalk/index.ssf

What a fine mess we have.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:33 AM
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1. lol and everyone in that poll was a democrat lol
Rush was probably announcing it every 5 minutes lol

what next AOL?
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:35 AM
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4. CNN is owned by AOL
And both have Freeped polls. Although this one might not be just the actual Freeps, but also the pseudofreepish Hillbots. Some of them here have admitted they would vote for McLoon. On the Hillbot hate sites, it's even worse.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:12 PM
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22. Every poll that shows weakness for BO is a freeped poll.
But when they show BO on top, there's no problem at all.
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redsoxrudy Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:31 PM
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33. Wrong
Every online poll should be taken with a grain of salt no matter who end up on top. As for me I will vote for the Dem nominee no matter what.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:34 AM
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2. As with all elections, it is up for the politician to come across the best.
How people vote is their choice.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:35 AM
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3. A web poll that got freeped. n/t
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:35 AM
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5. when they say "not scientific" they really mean it with this one!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:35 AM
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6. That's today talking
Edited on Tue May-06-08 11:51 AM by Mz Pip
Give it a couple of months and things will settle down after we have a nominee and Democrats take the time to get a really good look at McSameasbush.

Passions will cool if we let them.
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kmsarvis Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:46 AM
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12. EXACTLY!!!!
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:35 AM
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7. Obama supporters are getting their wish.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 11:36 AM by lumberjack_jeff
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:40 AM
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11. many obama supporters said they can do without the Clinton supporters in the Party. sick
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:02 PM
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18. That's unfair and untrue.
A Clinton caller phoned me and said she supports Clinton and is afraid of what would happen if "the other guy" got the nomination. She asked me if she could count on my support for Hillary. I said I respect Senator Clinton, but I am leaning toward the other guy. The caller then asked me whether this was because she is a woman.

How insulting and petty! Yet I would not let this incident or the nasty anti-Obama posts on DU form my opinion of those who believe that HRC is the best choice for president.

That said, it is Hillary's campaign that resembles a Republican campaign and damages the Democratic party. With my own unbelieving ears I heard Hillary say that McCain would make a fine president, but Obama only makes pretty speeches. The 3am ad is pure GOP fearmongering. And the misremembering of the sniper fire incident makes her incredibly vulnerable against the veteran / POW candidate. (The GOP ads would be like the swiftboat campaign, except that it would not have to be based on lies.)

Obama supporters, as a rule, do not wish to alienate any real Democrats any more than that phone bank twit wanted to make me resent Ms. Clinton. I do hope that we can get over this intra-party marital spat.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:10 PM
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21. How does that change the basic point?
The CNN poll reflects what is seen here daily. A sizeable minority of Obama supporters here
a) won't vote for Hillary no matter what
b) actively encourage Hillary's supporters to leave the party in the same way they've forced them out of DU.

I notice that very few DU'ers are afraid to make the mirror-image speculation about Hillary's supporters. They don't ask if us HRC supporters are racists, because they already know.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:21 PM
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24. Great reply!
Supporters need to grow a pair and pick their choice on issues not anything else.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:36 AM
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8. Much can and will change in the next 6 months.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:37 AM
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9. Bullshit...I smell freeping.
:argh:
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:37 AM
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10. polls schmolls
i'm convinced cnn will print ANYTHING online
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:47 AM
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13. Silly to take this "poll" seriously... a lot of mischief here
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:57 AM
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14. Polls conducted here say the same thing. n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:58 AM
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15. I've never seen anything so distrubing in my life
Edited on Tue May-06-08 12:01 PM by kenny blankenship
It really makes you thunk What am I doing in this party? Whore all these people calling themselves Democarts?
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:58 AM
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16. Bullshit.
No way.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:59 AM
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17. There is no way that 40% of democratic voters will vote for John McCain
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:14 PM
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23. He has a real shot to get 30% of Democratic voters.
If he even gets close to that, turn out the lights on Election Day.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:35 PM
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27. Who are these 30% democrats?
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:41 PM
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28. That's an absolute worst-case scenario. DINOs, "moderate Dems",Hillary supporters
Mostly older and rural/exurban Dem voters. Many will have their prejudices in the voting booth, and will go with McCain if Obama is the nominee. They might be sore if Hillary doesn't get the nom, and will take it out on Obama. Racism is still alive and well.

McCain getting into the 20s of registered Dems could very well happen.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:53 PM
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29. No way...maybe 5%, in a stretch 10%...but 30% is not even close
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:03 PM
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19. if you vote for mccain, you ain't no democrat
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:06 PM
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20. another poll that means nothing
Edited on Tue May-06-08 12:07 PM by TexasObserver
Any poll taken during the primary is going to have responses that are based upon the perceived impact NOW on the primary of the responses. So you'll get a lot of people who are lying.

This poll proves only that this poll is not very reliable as an indicator of anything.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:29 PM
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25. Let's (chuckle) take that at face value. Then the polls with Obama up 11 on McHundred....
...will show an even bigger gap if ANY defectors come home. Now, let's all relax.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:30 PM
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26. online?
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LiberaI Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:53 PM
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30. Online polls are meaningless. NT
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:55 PM
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31. Everything will be forgotten and forgiven come November
(one hopes)
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:55 PM
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32. Can we totally entrust the media though.
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