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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 12:51 PM Original message |
"I believe marriage is an institution for the union of a man and a woman." |
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Bright Eyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Yet Obama is trashed nonstop by some for saying the same thing. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. If she insists on counting HIS administration as HER experience, she gets it warts & all |
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SoonerPride (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. I never forgave them on DOMA. It was a crime. |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. It was a sad day for me |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Feingold voted "Nay". |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. Kerry voted "nay" |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 06:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
60. Good, thanks. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. Me too. nt |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. She takes all the credit for everything thats "good" i.e.: that polls well |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. But DOMA continues to poll well |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. YEPPER. That's what he said. And Hillary |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. This argument is mute. As a person who donated to her campaign - she's out of the pic. now. So |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I wish it was mute. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It's not moot here until people stop attacking the nominee. |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Both of them are against marriage equality. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Sadly, yes. |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. It's a crippling handicap for most people of that generation. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I think the time is coming sooner than that. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. My understanding is that the California ruling... |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
10. K & R |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
13. Actually, as long as they don't try to use the state to impose their views on everyone else, |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Bill Clinton WAS a wacko fundie who tried to legislate his personal view. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. I agree. He should have taken a stand and vetoed the bill even though his veto... |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. As far as I know there's no indication that he regrets signing the bill. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. DOMA probably stopped a constitutional amendment in its tracks. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. This thread is in response to one that trashed Obama for saying the same thing. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. How old are you anyway, trits? 20? Well, I'm old enough to be your grandfather, and no, that's not |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. That was the cover they used to keep the GLBT community from going berserk. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. We didn't go berserk, but we didn't forget, and that's why I could NEVER be eager for Hillary. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Yet so many of us have flocked to Hillary and I can't understand it. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. I don't know what that is supposed to mean. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Clinton was fooling around with a female intern, and used his support for DOMA as a means of deflect |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. It passed with supermajorities in both houses. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Yet he still signed it. Not a great way to back up the GLBT community. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Right. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. That's a statement I would agree with. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 06:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
61. Nope, don't think so. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
64. Bullshit, the amendment would have never passed. The rethugs didn't have the votes ........ |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-17-08 04:50 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. DOMA passed with the type of numbers that would approve a constitutional amendment in Congress |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
15. Don't you know? She secretly opposed Bill's stance... |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
20. Personally I would be happy with abolishing state sanctioned "marriage" all together. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Dare I say "The French Way"? |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. You mean "The Freedom Way"! |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Maybe we should call it "Old Marriage" like "Old Europe". |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Hear hear!! |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. I agree. As long as everyone legally has the the same rights. |
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MagickMuffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 06:59 AM Response to Reply #20 |
63. Exactly what I was going to post. I'm in a 28 year Common Law "marriage" |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
31. It sucks for gay people. You can die for your country, but your country won't let you marry..sucks! |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. They won't even let you die for your country (unless you're stop-lossed). |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. It sucks balls!! Just sucks! Completely unfair. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## DON'T DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
39. isnt obama against gay marriage too. pot----kettle. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Neither Obama nor Clinton have showed much political courage on this issue. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. That's the point of this thread. Some idiot posted an anti-obama quote on marriate equality. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. If your point is they both suck on this but Obama sucks less, you failed. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You failed when you posted your propoganda thinking no one would call your on it. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Since when is an Obama Senate speech propaganda? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. When you use it to try to stir up hatred. That's when. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Do you think a criticism of Obama's words and positions is stirring up hatred? |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Do you really think your grade school word twisting is going to work? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. In your case, I may need preschool phonics. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I agree. This is preschool. From both of us. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Peace. I'm going to sleep too. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 06:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
62. He won't push for overturning a law allowing it. |
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