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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:19 PM
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Time magazine reports that polls say McCain is neck and neck with Obama.
Is this going to be another nail biter?

Most Americans now realize that Bush's administration was an unmitigated disaster but think the way to fix it is to elect a president that will continue all his policies.

How can people be so damned stupid!? I don't get it.
(Though I said a similar thing in the last election. How could they possibly vote for Bush again? )

I'm really embarrassed to be an American nowadays. More of us seem to be uneducated, ignorant imbeciles than aren't.

Our country really needs some heavy duty education policies or else it's going to self destruct in a giant explosion of submoranic idiocy.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:21 PM
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1. I'll say it again: These polls mean NOTHING until we have an actual candidate!!!!!!
If you don't believe me, look at Kay Hagen/Elizabeth Dole. Dole was leading by double digits when paired against Hagan before Hagan actually won the primary. The day she won the primary she pulled ahead of Dole.

I can't explain it except to say that it is a psychological difference when you have actual candidates versus hypotheticals.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:22 PM
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2. Obama is black, McBush is white

don't underestimate the amount of racism in this country.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:23 PM
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6. Don't overestimated either........
doing so only shows your own heart.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:27 PM
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8.  I'm being a realist
if I had a nickel for every racist relative I have...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:37 PM
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11. Are you being a realist? How do you know that this is what you are being?
I believe that just as many wouldn't vote for Hillary for being a woman. So then what?

I believe that just as many won't vote for John McCain because of his age. So then what?

I'm trying to figure out what your point is. To say that there are too many people "bothered" by melanin to the point of going against their own interest rather than voting for someone who happens to be 1/2 black?

I think if those stoking the sentiments of racism would stop it, maybe we could repair the damage that Hillary did during the primaries. To make it cool to be a racist in the 21st century should have never been encouraged....and yet, this is exactly what Hillary did.

As far as I am concerned, when I meet people, they quickly forget that I am Black/Bi-racial....because face to face, they soon judge me by the content of my character, and not for the color of my skin......so I must be more of a patriot than you are, because I place more faith in the goodness of the American people than you do.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:34 PM
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10. The point I want to make is

Obama can't just have a marginal win, or it will be close enough to steal.

he needs to utterly destroy him so much so, on a political and personal level, that even the racists would be ashamed to vote for McCrazy.

and for starters I wish he would quit kissing McCain's ass about being a war hero. you don't beat your opponent by kissing their ass in every speech.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:22 PM
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3. Who knows
5 months before Iowa Hillary was a lock to be the nominee. No one knows what the next 5 months will bring.

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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:22 PM
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4. Don't pay any attention to these stupid polls right now...there is
no way mc cain will win unless they steal this election and at this point in history I think that would cause a huge backlash....
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:22 PM
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5. Considering that Obama had been getting attacked by the Clintons, McCain, the media
and even Bush.....seems that he's doing pretty well then.

It's hard to run two races at the same time, and attempt not to attack in an underhanded manner...the other candidates.

Here's what I believe in reference to the GE: http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_frenchie_080517_how_in_the_general_e.htm
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:24 PM
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7. McCain has had a free ride since Jan
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:32 PM
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9. I don't get it either.
Bush has something like 70% disapproval ratings, but obviously about twentysomething percent of these folks who hate Bush are willing to vote McCain, even though McCain is politically the exact same person, with the exact same policies they say have put America on the wrong track.

In the end, these are people who don't vote based on policy. They vote based on labels or based on personality. McCain is a Republican, and they vote Republican, so they'll vote for McCain. Or McCain reminds them of their Grandpa. So they'll vote for another 4000 dead soldiers, vote for screwing themselves and their kids out of healthcare...

Makes you wonder about democracy some days.

If Obama doesn't get in, things are going to have to get a lot worse before they get better.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:23 PM
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12. Totally Meaningless.
After the convention he'll establish a lead that will noty go away.

Attention will come to mccain, Obama will win the debates, we will have a united party.

I say Obama by 8 to 10 percent of the popular vote and in the high 300s in the electoral vote.

People want change and they will see that john mccain = moreof the same!

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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:29 PM
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13. As long as Obama is being attacked by Hillary and McCain it benefits McCain
once she gets out of the race and it focuses on Obama and McCain, our advantage will grow. Right now there is no coverage of McCain. It's all Hillary vs. Obama which continues to divide some democrats--particularly disgruntled Clinton supporters.
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