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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:51 PM Original message |
There Is NO Popular Vote |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. The only way to achieve an accurate popular vote is to have everyone vote on the same day |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. With the same weather, media attention, candidate visits, money invested in each region, poll access |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. yep. nt |
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housewolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. There IS a popular vote... it's just that it's used to tell the states how to vote |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. No. There is not a popular vote |
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housewolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Right... when it comes to primary elections the popular vote only counts in those states |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. No, in some caucus states there is no popular vote. You can walk in and ......... |
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Middle finga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. What an asinine argument... How the hell can you get a truly popular |
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LTR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. Anyone who keeps pounding the popular vote meme in the primaries... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Isn't that what ALL the political pundits (experts) do? Someone should shoot them all! n/t |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. We have always believed that there was a popular vote. And a Santa Claus. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. COWNT AL THE VOTES!1 |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. Not idiotic so much as it is deliberately disingenuous. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. Oh, FUCK ME! You know how many threads I started trying to get this point across |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
15. Get used to it. August is a long way off. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. Yea ..lets redo the caucus states so we can count the votes....pffft |
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psychmommy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. agreed |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. K/R |
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shanine (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. YES THERE IS (Popular Vote) |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. NO. There is not |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. On the other haand, if they wanted to enshrine proportional representation in the |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
23. Just saw Ickes on TV yelling about it. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. This is why Ickes is dangerous to the Democratic party. |
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Erin Elizabeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. That's the first time I've ever heard him speak |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
25. There's only the electoral college |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. k & R - for the sake of sanity |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. Oh you and your elitist FACTS! |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. There is none relevant to a primary race |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
30. kick |
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ImpeechBush (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
31. Now that Clinton appears to be winning it it has disappeared! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. No, Obama supporters never said that, not ever |
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ImpeechBush (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Thanks for clearing that up! Oh, and it's not in the garage either... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Primary Voters and Caucus Goers |
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ImpeechBush (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. So when Obama welcomed superdelegate Byrd, was it because |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Superdelegates are required to win |
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ImpeechBush (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. So it has nothing to do with the Will of the People, just winning |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. The pledged delegates reflect the vote of the people |
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ImpeechBush (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. If that's what Obama says, then of course it must be true |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. That's what all the states electing delegates say |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
34. So, I guess when Gore was repeating that "shit" in 2000 |
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mystieus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Its different in the fact Obama has never lost the popular vote. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. No. There is no popular vote. It doesn't exist. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Case proven |
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ImpeechBush (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. There is no elephant in the middle of the room |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
36. Just like pushing the Iraq war, our corporate msm whores push another lie, the popular vote, in |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
39. Too bad that so few people agree with you that you actually have to post this. |
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Yotun (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Actually its the minority who are buying into Clinton's electoral fraud. But feel free to explain |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. If there were a popular vote |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
42. I won the not popular vote once. Didn't even try. |
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RNdaSilva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
44. Why is that such a difficult, but simple, concept to grasp? |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
51. I agree - this is why we have delegates. |
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Yotun (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
53. OK, this is it- IF YOU ARE USING THE POPULAR VOTE TO ARGUE FOR ANYTHING YOU ARE STUPID!!! FACT!!! |
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DesEtoiles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
55. . |
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jespwrs (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Iike this guy's little breakdown of things... |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
57. oh! so Gore didn't win the popular vote in 2000 |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
58. There is a vote FOR delegates not candidates. You could say popular delegates. |
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