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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:53 AM
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What do you think of an Obama-Bloomberg ticket?
What do folks think of that possibility?

From CBS News:

If the central doubt about Obama is his lack of experience (and, in particular, executive experience), Bloomberg would provide a degree of reassurance. Picking him would substantiate and reinforce Obama’s message of pragmatism and post-partisanship. And he would go a long way toward mitigating Obama’s problem with Jewish voters, a dilemma brought on by a combination of his association with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, the nuthouse rumors that he is a closet Muslim, and his willingness to talk to anti-Israel crackpots such as Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/05/23/politics/horserace/entry4122871.shtml
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:56 AM
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1. Bad idea. What's he going to bring, New York?
:rofl:
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:43 AM
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17. Florida, perhaps
I think he'd be a big help there.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:53 AM
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22. I could see that. Better to pick Wexler from Florida, he could run in '16.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:57 AM
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2. not gonna happen and I don't think it's a good ticket (Bloomberg's lack of foreign policy exp. among
other things).
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:21 AM
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29. What BklynChick said.
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:58 AM
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3. A Republifan w/no National campaign experience
Why do we keep wanting to put Republicans on the ticket? They would bring little, and we don't owe them anything. Find a candidate who involkes party loyalty so they will turn out and vote.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:35 AM
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16. I don't want him either, but he never "really" was a
Repubulican.

He was a lifelong Dem. and switched to Repub. to get on the ticket for the mayor's position, and has now
formally become an Independant.

I like him, but I think he would be an awful choice.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:44 AM
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18. Bloomberg leaves Republican Party
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DramaOnHwy61 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:11 AM
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27. turncoat. Next please?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 05:59 AM
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4. I don't
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:00 AM
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5. I think a McCain/Bloomberg ticket is more likely
Let's find a Democrat for the other half of the Democratic ticket.
:hi:
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Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:12 AM
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9. If so
all Dems should rejoice. Bloomberg is very much pro-choice, pro-stem cells, anti-death penalty, anti-gun.

McCain already faces problems from GOP conservatives over these issues - if he's on McCains the ticket, they will sit this one out!
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:19 AM
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40. and a progressive-leaning Democrat -- someone who NEVER supported the IWR while we're at it
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DramaOnHwy61 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:01 AM
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6. Bad Idea. Think USA not Israel.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:25 AM
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12. Please explain ..
This looks pretty anti-Semitic to me. I hope I'm wrong.
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DramaOnHwy61 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:34 AM
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15. please explain...
how a US president which puts US interests first could be "anti-Israel" let alone "anti-semitic".
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:45 AM
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19. What does "Think USA Not Israel" have to do with Bloomberg as a VP choice?
What does that mean?
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DramaOnHwy61 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:56 AM
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24. read the OP, and you'll understand. nt
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:10 AM
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26. Obama is probably as pro-Israel as Bloomberg
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 07:10 AM by oberliner
Republican spin aside.

Here are Obama's actual words:

As President, I will do everything in my power to help Israel protect itself from these and other threats. I will make sure that Israel can defend itself from any attack, whether it comes from as close as Gaza or as far as Tehran. The defense cooperation between the United States and Israel has been a model of success, and I believe that it can be deepened and it can be strengthened.

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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:03 AM
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7. Hate it
I don't think Bloomberg brings anything to the ticket.
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Hola Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:09 AM
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8. Excellent
Excellent choice, Bloomberg is very popular, not just in NYC, but across the nation.

Only problems - (1) Iraq War - Bloomberg originally supported it.
(2) Trade - Very much pro-free trade.

If the election is about Iraq - Bloomberg is not so good a choice
If it's about the Economy - Bloomberg is a good choice
If it's about post-partisanship - Bloomberg is an excellent choice
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:18 AM
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10. Gallup Poll - Jewish Voters: Obama 61%/McCain 32%
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 06:25 AM by Douglas Carpenter


But no I'm sure an Obama/Bloomberg ticket is not going to happen.

1. New York is a safe Democratic state anyway

2. This would not help Sen. Obama with small town and midsize city voters

3. It would not help in his effort to carry Western, Southern or Border states.

4. It would only reenforce the "latte drinking" urbane elite image.

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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:46 AM
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21. Could help secure Florida
That might be a critical state.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:21 AM
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11. not much.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:28 AM
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13. I doubt it will happen
and I doubt Bloomberg would accept even if he were offered a chance. The truth is Bloomberg does very little to help Obama.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:33 AM
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14. No, thanks. n/t
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:45 AM
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20. i think an ethical conservative,if he or she exists,might be good
obviously no dlc or neocon
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 06:54 AM
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23. I think not.
I reject the theory that business experience is at all relevant to being president of the republic. Bloomberg re-assures who? Outside of NYC he is unknown. Bloomberg delivers the NYC votes, which are going to go 90% Obama anyway, to Obama. Bloomberg plays about as well to the same yahoos Clinton contends can't vote for the Black man as Obama does: they can't vote for the New York Jew either.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:13 AM
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28. I think there are some "Hillary, McCain, Obama" voters
(Voters who (for whatever reason) rank the candidates in the order indicated)

Bloomberg might edge them away from McCain and over to Obama.

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 08:25 AM
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38. So he brings 100,000 votes to the table?
Obama can do better than that. Clinton would bring more than that herself.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:08 AM
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25. Bloomberg doesnt want the job, he supports any ticket that gets the job done and was leaning Hagel,
But I think the CW right now is Richardson, on a ton of fronts, but most notably about geography and the unusual map Obama is going to run, coupled with foreign and domestic experience, Richardson has solid working relations in washington, so a good blend of old washington and new clean leadership.

Richardson also has the personality to keep up with Obama.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:25 AM
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30. As New York mayors go, I liked John Lindsay. He's no longer with us,
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 07:27 AM by Old Crusoe
and considered in a line that includes Beame, Koch, and Giuliani, Bloomberg isn't that bad, but he only is mayor because he knew the path to the Democratic nomination for that job was blocked.

He made a better Republican than most Republicans, but his constituency was decidedly more liberal than most Republicans' districts, and now he's bolted the GOP to stand as an independent.

He's got lots of money.

He's sincere about public service but is also a big city politician, so you get the mix of expediency with ideology (moderate-or-so).

Obama has scores of great Democrats to choose from who will bring more to the table for both the November election and to governing after it.

Bloomberg isn't "vice presidential," exactly. He strikes me as a top-dog, board room executive-type ppragmatist not given to taking orders.

It's probably odd for Bloomberg, a capable politician, to look out the window and see John McCain, essentially a walking corpse, with the Republican nomination for president.

If Obama wanted to contend for Florida he might do better electorally with Bob Graham than with Bloomberg, as Graham still retains considerable support in the redder counties and would not lose any ground for Obama in the alread-bluer counties.

Bloomberg doesn't help Obama in states with significant Hispanic populations, where Bill Richardson, for example, almost certainly would.

Etc. Too many great Democrats are available to force consideration of Bloomberg for the ticket, IMO. Which isn't to say Obama won't make his decision on his own instincts and preferences; I'm only offering praise for existing and available Democratic choices instead.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:28 AM
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31. Republicans are not eligible.
No thank you.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:28 AM
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32. I like Obama-Bloomingdale's
We'd capture women's votes.
:rofl:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:30 AM
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33. Some of you O people sure do love suggesting a Repuke s for the VP
Edited on Mon Jun-02-08 07:31 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
and then have the balls to call us Clinton Dems "repukes".....

amazing
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:39 AM
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34. I think it's a monumentally stupid idea, and that it would never happen in a million years.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:40 AM
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35. Experience has run this country into the ground. Obama's VP will play a large role in DEFINING Obama
Bloomberg would help the GOP define Obama as just another politician and would severely damage the change message. Plus, I think someone like Bloomberg being a heartbeat away from the Presidency would inflame the Middle East. Do we really want to do that?
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:43 AM
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36. No. nt
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 07:51 AM
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37. It's gonna be Webb. n/t
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:17 AM
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39. The top of the ticket is fine -- but Bloomberg? Lousy realpolitik, even worse in principle
I would be EXTREMELY disappointed in Obama if he were to pick Bloomberg, or ANYONE AS BAD AS BLOOMBERG to be on the ticket.

How about a woman who NEVER supported the Iraq War Resolution?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:19 AM
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41. ROFL - Overwhelming Democratic Year.....
And some want to pick a Republican as VP.

Classic.
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