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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:12 AM
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Kerry's crew is about to deliver a long, rotten week to Bush & Co.
Received via email from the campaign:

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George W. Bush has turned his back on the middle class and has put
America up for sale.

First, we find out that Bush has shifted America's tax burden to the
middle class. Then, he floats the idea of raising taxes on the middle
class by imposing a 20% national sales tax. Now we find out he's been
weakening our health, environmental and safety regulations by placing
campaign contributors and corporate interests atop the agencies in
charge of protecting Americans.

For the last two weeks, the Bush-Cheney campaign has been on the
defensive, struggling to explain why the Bush policies have failed to
create a single new job and why the president is trying to raise taxes
on the middle-class. This week, it's going to have to explain why
George W. Bush been doing the bidding of his top donors.

When you've got a federal regulatory structure staffed by people who
used to work for corporate interests and tons of campaign cash coming
into your coffers, you get policies that help those corporate interests
and not the public interest. As a result, regulations aimed at
preventing the trucking industry from forcing drivers to sit behind the
wheel for hours on end get relaxed and before you know it, there's a
story on the news about a car accident involving an eighteen-wheeler and
a family.

This week, the Kerry-Edwards campaign is going to draw attention to the
fact that the Bush White House has led an unprecedented effort to get
rid of these kinds of rules in an effort to help their friends in the
boardroom. Indeed, the White House has taken the most aggressive
anti-regulatory posture in memory.

On Monday, John Edwards is going to go after George Bush's anti-family
agenda during a stop in Missouri where he will call out the Bush
administration for the favors it is doing for special interests. At the
same time, the Kerry-Edwards campaign will release a new report on links
between special interest donations, appointments of industry figures
within the Administration and regulations that have been rolled back or
eased at the behest of corporations.

In addition, Democrats throughout the country will spend the week
holding events and news conferences in key battleground states to
highlight the fact that the Bush administration has pursued an agenda
that is totally at odds with working families. They will keep drawing
attention to the fact that the only policy proposal the Bush White House
has come up with so far in this campaign is a plan to raise taxes on the
middle class and ask the White House to disclose the kinds of contacts
it has had with the lobbyists representing the industries from which it
has received contributions and for which it has done favors.

While the White House will no doubt claim that its efforts to ease these
regulatory rules are aimed at spurring job growth, it bears noting that
not a single job has been created yet by these actions but literally
thousands of lives have been put at risk by the regulatory policies
pursued by George W. Bush.

The public has been on to the fact that the Bush Administration isn't on
their side for some time. When asked if George W. Bush cares more about
protecting the interests of ordinary working people, or more about
protecting the interests of large business corporations, a whopping 63
percent say he is on the side of big business (LA Times, 3/27). When
asked which of the candidates in the 2004 race cares about the needs of
people like "you," Bush trails Kerry by 15 points, in the
CNN/USATODAY/GALLUP poll (7/30-7/31).

The bottom line is that if you're an average American, it's pretty hard
to get heard by George Bush and get ahead in today's economy. But if
you're a big contributor--or a powerful corporate interest--you get
heard loud and clear.

John Kerry and John Edwards have a vision to build an America stronger
at home and respected in the world. They will restore integrity in the
White House, and put in place policies that protect all Americans.

GEORGE W. BUSH: UNDERMINING THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF WORKERS AND
FAMILIES

George W. Bush has rolled back and eliminated a series of important
regulations designed to protect the health of families and workers. The
Bush Administration has taken the most aggressive anti-regulatory
posture in memory, fighting back against important rules to side with
business interests. He's not only trying to raise taxes on middle-class
families, he's trying to undermine important protections that save
lives.

OSHA Under Bush Has "Embrace a More Business-Friendly Posture." The
Bush Administration has altered the rule-making power of the
Occupational Safety and Health Administration to promote the interests
of business over workers. "In the past 3 1/2 years, OSHA, the branch of
the Labor Department in charge of workers' well-being, has eliminated
nearly five times as many pending standards as it has completed. It has
not started any major new health or safety rules, setting Bush apart
from the previous three presidents, including Ronald Reagan."


IGNORING THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF WORKERS:

RULE: Bush Eliminated Protections for Mine Workers. The Bush
administration has eliminated protections for coal workers. "The
reintroduction of the coal dust measure came after the federal agency
had abandoned a series of Clinton-era safety proposals favored by coal
miners while embracing others favored by mine owners...In all, the mine
safety agency has rescinded more than a half-dozen proposals intended to
make coal miners' jobs safer, including steps to limit miners' exposure
to toxic chemicals."

* INTEREST: Coal Mining Industry Gave Hundreds of Thousands to
Bush Campaigns. George Bush has received hundreds of thousands of
dollars in campaign contributions from the coal mining industry. So far,
Bush-Cheney has received over $300,000 from the mining industry. Also,
David Larrikin, currently the head of the Mine Safety and Health
Administration, who, as an executive of a mining company, proposed the
same weaker regulations he implemented as a Bush official.


RULE: Bush Endangered Pregnant Women When He Stopped Regulating
Chemicals Used in Semiconductors. George Bush endangered pregnant women
in his deregulation of semiconductor production. "In August 2001...the
agency stopped efforts to regulate chemicals used in making
semiconductors and suspected of causing miscarriages in workers...a
month after the semiconductor decision, OHSA eliminated a proposal
dating to the Reagan administration, that would have updated lists of
the amounts of industrial chemicals to which workers could be exposed."


* INTEREST: Chemical Industry Gave Over $1.5 Million to Bush and
the RNC. The chemical industry has been large donors to the Bush-Cheney
campaign and the RNC. They have given over $1.5 million while five
members of the industry are Bush Pioneers and Rangers.


RULE: Bush Eliminated Overtime for 6 Million Workers. The Bush
Administration's Labor Department has provided guidance to employers on
how they can reduce overtime pay to workers. They posted options on
their website, including cutting wages so that additional overtime
payments equal the worker's original salary. The Bush Administration's
overtime regulation, which will take effect on August 23rd, expands the
number of employees exempt from overtime protection. It will deny
existing overtime protections to 6 million hard-working men and women,
including registered nurses, cooks, clerical workers, nursery school
teachers, and many others. <http://www.epinet.org/> ]

RULE: Bush Eliminated Rules to Protect Workers from Tuberculosis. The
Bush Administration quietly eliminated proposed rules that would have
protected thousands of workers from tuberculosis. "By the time
President Bush moved into the White House, the tuberculosis rules, first
envisioned in 1993, were nearly complete. But the new administration did
nothing on the issue for the next three years. Then, on the last day of
2003, in an action so obscure it was not mentioned in any major
newspaper in the country, the administration canceled the rules."


EASING RULES FOR INDUSTRY WHILE IGNORING THE RISKS FOR FAMILIES:

RULE: Bush Rolled Back Mercury Regulations. According to the New York
Times, the White House staff deleted or modified language in the mercury
emissions proposal to minimize the health risks posed by the toxic
chemical. Science panel members "were concerned because the White House
almost uniformly minimized the health risks in instances where there
could be disagreement." George Bush further caved to industry pressure
and proposed to defer controls on mercury emissions by power plants for
at least a decade.

* INTEREST: Coal Mining Industry Gave Hundreds of Thousands to
Bush Campaigns. George Bush has received hundreds of thousands of
dollars in campaign contributions from the coal mining industry. So far,
Bush-Cheney has received over $300,000 from the mining industry.
According to a Washington Post analysis, "a side-by-side comparison of
one of the three proposed rules and the memorandums prepared by Latham &
Watkins, one of Washington's premier corporate environmental law firms,
shows that at least a dozen paragraphs were lifted, sometimes verbatim,
from the industry suggestions." Washington Post, 1/31/04]

RULE: Bush Eased New Source Regulations to Protect Polluters. Rather
than enforce the law and force utilities and other sources to reduce
harmful emissions, George Bush has gutted the Clean Air Act by creating
a huge new loophole that will enable dirty, old plants to continue to
operate without controlling emissions. The Baltimore Sun reported,
"Yesterday, the Bush administration essentially sided with industry and
handed power plants and other facilities the flexibility they have
sought. The EPA said it was clarifying 'routine maintenance' so
facilities could spend up to 20 percent of the value of their primary
equipment in any single renovation, without triggering new source
review."

* INTEREST: 61 Pioneers Were From The Energy and Natural
Resources Industry. 61 Pioneers, each of whom pledged to raise $100,000
for Bush's 2000 campaign were from the Energy and Natural Resources
industry. Five of these Pioneers, including Edison Electric Institute
President Thomas Kuhn, were appointed to Bush's energy transition team.
<http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/ContributorsAndPaybacks/pioneer_profil
e.cfm?pioneer_ID=129> ]

RULE: Bush Eased Logging Regulations and Eliminated Environmental
Reviews. George Bush eased rules for lumber and paper companies to log
in federal forests. "The administration at the request of lumber and
paper companies, gave Forest Service managers the right to approve
logging in federal forests without the usual environmental reviews."


* INTEREST: Lumber and Timber Industry Gave Millions to Bush.
The lumber and timber industry have been substantial donors to the
Bush-Cheney campaigns. They gave over $3 million to the 2004 effort and
$1 million in 2000. Additionally, Mark Rey, Under Secretary of
Agriculture for Natural Resources and Environment, was a lobbyist for
the paper and logging Industries. Post-Intelligencer, 8/21/03]

RULE: Bush Extended Truck Driving Hours. The Bush administration
extended the hours that truck drivers are allowed to drive at a stretch.
"The change would increase allowable driving time from 10 hours without
a break to 11 hours...Trucking companies said they were satisfied with
the rule while truck drivers deplored it, saying the added hours of
driving time would increase driver fatigue."

* INTEREST: Leaders of the Trucking Industry Support GOP. Walter
B. McCormack, of the American Trucking Association, which gave $836,511
to GOP candidates and committees in 1999-2000 - $526,985 to GOP
candidates and $309,526 to GOP committees - served on the Bush
Administration's Transportation Department transition team.


www.johnerry.com <http://www.johnerry.com/>
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:15 AM
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1. all well and good, but
can you guess what I'd say about this?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:16 AM
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4. Not really, no
but if you feel like pissing on the parade, unzip your fly and let it spray. Far be it from me to suggest that we help get this message out to the media or anything. We are, after all, doomed.

Or something.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:19 AM
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9. close! see number seven post
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:37 AM
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19. sounds good but I signed up as a media corps volunteer
and I haven't seen this e-mail yet. I guess I'll have to go check my reg. to see if it is set-up ok. Thanks for posting the update.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 10:32 AM
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23. Whoever that was...occupied my Igonore List for a long time!
Piss-Piss-Piss:wtf:
Oh,well,Will..Keep on Keepin' On,Compadre!:yourock:

Lookin' for coffee filters in the Faculty Lounge,:donut:
GG:smoke:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:18 AM
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5. I'll try to guess...
you're gonna write a LttE to dovetail with these issues.

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:18 AM
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7. something along the lines of......
I'll believe this has any effect when it gets discussed for long periods of time on Tee frickin Vee

that's about all that matters anymore, like it or not

convince me otherwise, and I'll give you a hearty handshake

we have NO echo chamber; negative, if anything

the media will take this info, and, if they don't ignore/brush it off, will tear it apart, according to their daily repub talking points memos

I'd like to feel differently, and I appreciate your efforts as much as anyone here, but.......
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:37 AM
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18. Yes and No
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 09:38 AM by Beetwasher
Have you heard the term "All Politics is local"?

I don't expect much from the national cable channels covering this, however, notice where they are going to hold their press conferences? In swing states. Kerry and Edwards are pounding the pavement hard. Most people get their news locally, from local outlets who WILL cover this stuff (the local paper, the local tv stations), especially when Kerry and Edwards are in their state. So when they show up in just about every small town, it gets covered, and the issues DO get covered and the people in those towns DO hear about it.

Kerry and Edwards are going to go out and try to shake the hand of every single person in every swing state. That is how they are going to get their message out. Fuck the national cable channels, their audience is PUNY. It's ALL about getting the local coverage, and they will.

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:17 PM
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29. of course I've heard that
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 12:18 PM by buycitgo
and have YOU heard about the almost uniformly biased, antiKerry coverage on local TV stations across the country?

there's ample evidence of this, all of which I've read here, otherwise I'd have no knowledge of that assertion

most local stations are owned by either rich local wingnuts, or syndicates comprised of rich wingnuts, or OandO's, which are part and parcel of the big media

I hope you're right about better local coverage, but, from what I see here (did you see the thread about the horrible local Portland TV coverage of Kerry's visit?), I can only wonder

I'd like to be positive, but I can't shake the impression that the last "election" (going to bed four years ago, after celebrating the victory at a local dem's election HQ, only to wake up to a four year nightmare) has seared into my consciousness.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:27 PM
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32. check this thread
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:40 PM
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34. His Message Still Gets Through
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 12:42 PM by Beetwasher
He IS ahead in the polls and in the battleground states...

Kerry knows the media is a problem, he's not stupid. That's why he will bring his message directly to the people as much as possible.

Some anecdotal evidence about local media coverage on a discussion board does not prove your point, nor mine for that matter. I have faith that Kerry knows what he's doing.

Whey don't YOU do YOUR part and hold the media accountable instead just complaining about it. Maybe you are and that's good, in that case, keep it up. If not, then what do you hope to accomplish by complaining to Will? You think he too does not realize the problem w/ the media? He's not stupid either.

Why don't YOU read this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=624808&mesg_id=624808

Obviously some people, actually A LOT OF PEOPLE are getting the message somehow.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:15 AM
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2. "Gooood Cracker" ... Seems us armchair strategists weren't too far off.
:hi:

I look forward to playing offense for a while! :toast:
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:16 AM
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3. lying cheating useless scum is all they are
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:18 AM
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6. shhh--don't tell them our strategy.... n/t
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:18 AM
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8. it is sure going to be nice to get the economy back in the news
that is afterall, what people are MOST concerned about which makes Bush a little nervous..since we should all care more about the war and his handling of the terrorists...

I will enjoy it if they are asking the questions for a while!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:19 AM
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10. This demonstrates some REAL strategic thinking!
Go after REAL issues where Bush stinks.

and to think, some armchair "strategists" have wanted attacks on non-issues that only would make Kerry look petty, like AWOL, etc.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:32 AM
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16. The OVERTIME PAY ruling MUST be publicized! DEM-Strat, STAT!!!!!
That will swing enough voters, alone. Has anyone considered what massive pay reductions will do to tax & social security collections? It is also a JOB KILLER. OT was enacted to encourage employers to HIRE people when workload warrants it. The current regulation exists for MANY good reasons that go way beyond its impact on individual earnings.
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DeminDC Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:21 AM
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11. Idea for KE04
Make Bush run on the national sales tax. He has come out as wanting to look into it. In the world of BC04, that means that they are in favor of it. Kerry's big line on the stump today should be something like, "My opponent wants to look into having a national sales tax. The last thing Americans need is an Administration that looks for new ways to tax the middle class. This proposal hurts families, and it hurts small businesses throughout America."
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:26 AM
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13. Yes indeed. We need to run with that!
:hi:
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 01:25 PM
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35. welcome! kerry has another press release on yahoo that references this
also where are you in dc? im in a-m
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:24 AM
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12. I Recommend Sending That Last Part As Response To Bush E-Mails
I'm hoping it's just me, but I've definitely got a Republican or two in the family. The kind that likes to send lots of pro-Bush and anti-Kerry e-mails to everyone they know. It's great for me, because I kick their ass every time.

The reason is easy: Bush is really hard to defend when you get down to specifics. They can talk about values, but this is their values right here in Mr. Pitt's post.

Thanks again, Will!
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:28 AM
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14. OH NO!!!
Not a campaign about the issues. I was so hoping Kerry would roll out a “National Guardsmen For Truth” campaign skit.

All in all, that list of Bush mishaps is only part of the story. But I am glad we plan on hitting this crew fast and furious. The façade that is due to hit us next week will likely give Bush a bounce.

As long as we lose very little ground overall, keep the numbers in the swing states in our favor and stay in play in the Conservative states (TN, VA), then I love Kerry’s chance for the stretch run.

Sadly however, Kerry/Edwards calling light to the horrific governance of this administration will be met by the media with derision and scorn with calls of “negative” campaigning.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:28 AM
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15. Will you need to edit
johnkerry.com
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:36 AM
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17. The JOB KILLING, Pay Reducing OT RULING is the key, baby!
8/23 will be D-Day for Bush is we FLOG THIS RULING. This ruling kills Joe Sixpack and all his dreams.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:44 AM
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20. does this mean a new Terra warning later in the week?
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 09:53 AM
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21. Wow
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 10:01 AM by stellanoir
I had heard about the lame assed national sales tax notion but had no clue that it was being floated at 20 frigging percent.

I wonder if the Dem's might counter that a national sales tax would not only impoverish people in the lower and middle income brackets, but would lower most people's purchasing ability, thereby further straining the revenue of already struggling individual states who are far more reliant on sales tax ,

Perhaps such a national sales tax would only be acceptable if imposed on non-essential luxury items, that cost over. . . say 75 grand or so.

I sort of thought the campaign might be saving their powder for after the RNC but what the heck. Just hope they get some media coverage during the Olympics.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 10:26 AM
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22. I am for
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 10:29 AM by kwolf68
Some sort of National Luxury tax where products are sold at below market value. In other words, products made by exploiting labor or environment should be taxed so that the “factors of production” (labor, and environmental runoff) can be properly dealt with. Since consumers and producers no longer bare the cost of consumption (and the cost is often passed onto society via taxes) in this perverted version of the free-market, I suggest we address that issue of cost externalization.

However, a National Sales Tax to pay for the workings of government is a hair-brained idea. Didn’t the Forbes guy who was trying to be President in the 1990s come up with this scheme?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:10 AM
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24. .
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:17 AM
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25. FANTASTIC!!!! Which Surrogates are being booked on shows to
repeat this exact information over and over so we can break our boycott to watch? Undoubtedly, the Kerry campaign has already booked dozens of surrogates, both live surrogates at creative attention-getting events in areas most harmed by these rule as well as respected activists and experts to go on radio and TV, and ESPECIALLY elected officials appearing on shows ostensibly for other reasons who will slip these TP in like the rethugs do all the time.

Since I'll be in WV and PA for work most of this week, I'd really like to know West Virginians and Pennsylvanians--coal miners, Coal Union spokespeople K. is booking on WV and PA radio, and which local news stations are running stories on the rules so I can tune in to listen to them rip the chimp.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:26 AM
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26. Thanks Will
Good to see some on the same page as the campaign. Hope it registers around here.

Voters: Economy/Jobs/Healthcare #1 Concern
Bush, Media: Scandal/Diversion/Distraction #1 Effort

I going to get a nap. Thanks again.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:51 AM
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27. Can I get the Cliff notes version?
:-)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:20 PM
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30. Bush sucks ass
:)
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:21 PM
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31. That works.
LOL
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:12 PM
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28. Its a start
Better than the almost nothing they have been doing so far.

Now if they can dig a little more they can do some real damage.

How about all the firings of key personel that didnt agree with thier policies.

How about all the fudging of the numbers.

How about the attempts to slash veterans pay and benefits.

The list goes on and on as we all know.

Good to see them start to grow a sack though. I hope it continues.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:28 PM
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33. The 'almost nothing' that YOU have discerned from God knows where
Your cynicism doesn't comport with the campaign I have been following. Fortunately I haven't been relying on the national media to inform me. Hope you tune into the campaign more closely and pull some of the punch of your criticism of their efforts. They have been doing something right in the last month to pull out these great numbers against Bush. In Pa., for example, Kerry leads in 4 out of 5 of the major concerns of voters.

But don't let me dissuade you from your cynicism.

(http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/current.htm) is one clearinghouse for the Kerry campaign literature and daily statements, schedules and responses to Bush. These are detailed, extensive, and amazingly regular. Take advantage of this and come fully aboard the campaign by becoming better informed about their intentions and thrust of their efforts..
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:24 PM
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36. "Fortunately I haven't been relying on the national media ..."
Unfortunately, 99 percent of America does.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 12:19 AM
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37. Actually, NO they don't
What sort of viewership do the cable news shows have? It's tiny. People get their news from local television and newspapers. You'd be surprised how different their reporting can be from the national news.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:17 AM
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38. I wish this were the case.
The three networks are not cable but are national and have huge audiences.

Many people don't even pay attention, and most of the small local papers in america are national papers in disguise-owned by national companies and carrying mostly wire service reports on camapaign issues.

Local TV news does draw people who don't watch CNN, but I hope we're not relying soley on local news coverage to win the election.
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