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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:07 AM
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ABCNote "reports" Bush campaign much better run than Kerry campaign
As Bush takes the "offensive" on the Iraq war and the economy — despite facts that have placed on him on the defensive - the ABCNote "reports" Bush campaign much better run than Kerry campaign

"The Bush-Cheney re-election campaign is convinced it has got it all over John Kerry when it comes to grass-roots political organization in key battleground states. James G. Lakely of the Washington Times reports, "the Bush team has put campaign chairmen in place in 94 percent of targeted precincts around the country

Sure, the Bush campaign is making another attempt this week to paint John Kerry as unqualified to be Commander-in-Chief — with its usual patented mutually-reinforcing mix of paid media, big time candidate statements, surrogate conference calls, muscular talking points, and an e-mail or 70. And, sure, the Kerry campaign is making another attempt to paint George Bush as too beholden to special interests — with its usual patented scattershot mix of cognitive-dissonance-causing mélange of paid media, confused and forceless candidate statements, surrogate conference calls based on weak talking points, and an e-mail or 90. "
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:08 AM
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1. Hmmm

I'm losing a ballgame 50% to 43% yet I'm calling better plays? :dunce:
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:11 AM
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6. Bush campaign is working *comparative* miracles. (He ought to be at 30%)
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 11:13 AM by troublemaker
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:10 AM
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2. the Bush campaign has a big advantage
media outlets like The Note are on their side.

But, the voters in Venezuela showed us that the media's chosen candidate doesn't always win.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:10 AM
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3. Everything is politics with the Bush crowd. Of course, they ...
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 11:11 AM by gulliver
... are better at campaigning. It's all they do.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:11 AM
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4. True, Roves can make Satan himself look like a Saint, but it doesn't
mean it's true,just means most Americans are very gullible.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:11 AM
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5. who cares what THEY think?
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 11:11 AM by buycitgo
Marc Ambinder, ABC/NOTE cretin, gave the Swiftliar book a RAVE review last week at that POS site

I started a thread on it

ABC=Media Hoes=Fascist enablers

why bother with them, other than to see just how low those narcissistic pukes can wallow in their propagandistic suppurations
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:12 AM
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7. Why listen to shit-eating ABC?
Everyone knows they are Nazis just like the rest of the corporate media.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:12 AM
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8. Actually I agree. The Republicans sadly, generally run better campaigns
we need to get on top of it.

Sure, the Bush campaign is making another attempt this week to paint John Kerry as unqualified to be Commander-in-Chief — with its usual patented mutually-reinforcing mix of paid media, big time candidate statements, surrogate conference calls, muscular talking points, and an e-mail or 70.

Contrast:

And, sure, the Kerry campaign is making another attempt to paint George Bush as too beholden to special interests — with its usual patented scattershot mix of cognitive-dissonance-causing mélange of paid media, confused and forceless candidate statements, surrogate conference calls based on weak talking points, and an e-mail or 90. "

Yep, ABC is spot on. It's time to get our groove on folks!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:16 PM
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17. Our Campaign Lacks the Chorus of TV Networks Singing Our Praises for Free
Bush has that, we don't. In that respect, his campaign is "better".

Their campaign is more negative to the point of being viscious.
When they do that, it's a "better campaign". When we run a negative
ad, it' "bashing".
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:27 PM
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18. That may be because the R's send out talking points to the media daily?
If we do the same, perhaps they'll 'attempt to appear' fair?

Get ready for more negativity, the convention promises to bash Kerry and good. :hi:
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:29 PM
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19. they make FUN of dem TPs, as per that link
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:39 PM
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20. The Kerry campaign sends out reams of info
The local media have carried their message more dependably than the national networks. Want proof?

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Will Distribute News Via U.S. Newswire: In a Campaign First, News Will Appear On Yahoo! News/Politics

8/13/2004 11:49:00 AM
To: National Desk, Political Reporter

Contact: Allison Dobson of Kerry-Edwards 2004, 202-464-2800

WASHINGTON, Aug. 13 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Effective immediately, all news documents issued to the media and the public by the Kerry-Edwards 2004 Press Office will be distributed via U.S. Newswire. These documents will include press releases, statements, news advisories, schedules, backgrounders and speech texts for the candidates, families, surrogates and staff as appropriate.

"We are pleased to have the unique resources of U.S. Newswire at our disposal," said Michael Meehan, Communications Director of Kerry-Edwards 2004. "They have a long history of helping presidential candidates tell their story to the press and the public, and we look forward to having the benefit of their experienced staff and unique technology as we move into a phase in the campaign where voters are increasingly focused on the election."

Additionally, through USN's unique agreements with online news services such as Yahoo! Google, Lexis/Nexis and others, Kerry- Edwards campaign news is posted in full to leading online news sites, enabling the research community, as well as the younger audiences that increasingly rely on online services, to receive news from the Kerry-Edwards campaign. Through U.S. Newswire's agreement with Yahoo!, Kerry-Edwards is the first presidential campaign to have its news and information posted directly to Yahoo! News/Politics ( http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index2&cid=669 ). The effect of this unique arrangement may have been revealed in a recent Washington Post article, (A Bounce for JohnKerry.com, Washington Post, Aug. 11, 2004), which cited a new Nielsen/NetRatings survey showing traffic to www.JohnKerry.com has increased 191 percent in recent weeks, moving up to the 213th most popular site in the country. By comparison, the article stated, President Bush's site did not have enough visitors to even register with the survey.

U.S. Newswire began working for the John Kerry for President campaign in March 2004 and since then has distributed thousands of documents. USN has been contracted to provide news distribution by every leading vote-getter in each of the past four presidential elections.

------

Editors Note: U.S. Newswire's data feed is available to credentialed media at no charge via a variety of distribution means including: AP DataFeature; APExpress, the USN website (RSS enabled), Yahoo News, Google News and AOL News, MSNBC and others. For information about these and other options to receive the U.S. Newswire feed, please contact Mark Bagley of U.S. Newswire at 800-544-8995.

http://www.usnewswire.com /

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=219-08...
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:47 PM
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21. Perhaps they need to narrow it down into effective sound bites?
Also, I haven't heard from the campaign in some time, and considering their surrogates in the media, are also not on the same page, they've got some issues to work on none the less.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:14 AM
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9. Kerry's running an AWESOME campaign...
Edited on Mon Aug-16-04 11:15 AM by ClassWarrior
...but let them think differently. Sun Tsu would be proud.

(btw... Kerry's doing it with the herculean efforts of lots of US. But we could stand more help! Volunteer now!!)


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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:20 AM
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10. Hmmm...I wonder if the note might be missing one tiny piece...
of the puzzle. According to Newsmax, yes I know they can't be trusted, we're kicking their ass in voter registration. From a post by Melodybe:

But the same 527s, backed by Bush-hating billionaires like George Soros, have spent more than triple that amount - some $85 million -- on registering new (read Democratic) voters.

These voter registration drives are below the radar screen, but may prove decisive for the Democrats on Election Day.

Steve Rosenthal, head of one of the leading 527s, Americans Coming Together, says, "There has never been anything like this magnitude of voter contact in history."

Rosenthal doesn't lie. The Republicans -- already on track to be outspent by the Democrats by 2 to 1 -- have not mounted any comparative effort.

There is no hard data on how effective the grassroots voter efforts have been so far, but NewsMax hears that the 527s are pouring millions into building get-out-the-vote operations in two states: Florida and Ohio.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2220314
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:23 AM
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12. A nice piece of good news - I Hope their fears are correct and we
have registered a lot of new Dems!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:49 AM
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14. Wouldn't it be awesome if we had record turnout and crushed the Bushies!
I'd have faith in my fellow Americans again if that happened. :)
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:22 AM
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11. They are better organized...
since they've been building their organizing and activist base for longer than Kerry has.

They are more disciplined, have a working war room, and the media access any President has, irrespective of whether or not the media may or may not fawn over Shrub.

They also are shameless about lying, which puts us at the greatest disadvantage. Like it or not, the media is always chary of calling the President, any President, or his minions, liars. They didn't come out and call Nixon, Johnson, or Clinton liars until the facts were undisputable and charges proven somewhere else. Even then, they skirted around directly calling a President a liar. It's just not the sort of thing that's done.





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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:51 AM
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15. You got it.
The shameless lying doesn't compare well to 'afraid to question because we let them define the debate' thing.

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:58 PM
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22. The lying is the only thing that really scares me...
since it's so difficult to overcome. Once the lie is accepted, it's almost impossible to disprove effectively.

Other than that, I think Kerry's doing a great job under the circumstances. Voter registration is up and he's tapping into a great unease with Shrub that doesn't make it into the polls.

Lies are all Shrub has at this point, and the public just might be getting on to them. And fed up with them.




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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:42 AM
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13. Bush can have campaign chairmen in 100% of the precincts
But if voters want him out it won't help much :)
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Joe Turner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 01:32 PM
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26. True--Bush has already lost much of his grassroots support
"But if voters want him out it won't help much :)"



Contrary to the thrust of this article, Bush has real problems at the local campaign level because of widespread conservative republican defections. Many of these "broken glass" republicans that were integral to Bush's 2000 campaign have been turned off by Bush's massive expansion of federal spending and police powers (among other issues I won't go into) and are going to sit out this election or vote for other candidates.


This point cannot be understated because when it comes to getting voters to the polls, whipping up support for Bush in the local precincts it is exactly those on the conservative end of the spectrum (not the neocons) that make things happen in an election year. Bush can spend millions on local operations but the convictionless GOP hacks that his Thugs dispatch locally are simply not the kind of campaign operators that are good at "getting out the vote". And I'm sure there are a lot of republican committeemen around the country that are quite dismayed at the prospect of having to push this sorry excuse of a president to their constituents. In fact, it is no secret that there are serious problems here.


In any event, nothing can be left to chance in an election. If John Kerry and his campaign act as if they are always behind regardless of the polls, he has a very good shot at victory.


For the sake of this country: Bush must be shown the Door in 2004.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 12:00 PM
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16. All through the Clinton impeachment mess republicans were focused
and disciplined in their prosecution.

Clinton stayed focused on the issues and concerns that most Americans care about, and the effect was a nullification of the noise and flailing from the republicans. Folks can see the difference between political mudslinging and a campaign focused on issues which actually concern and affect their daily lives.

So, what has Bush's 'better run' campaign gotten him? A week off focus of the real concerns of most voters. He completely abandoned any 'turn the corner' speechmaking in favor of this dark focus on military service, Iraq, and terrorism, issues thaty don't really amount to a clear win for Bush. His campaign and its surrogates have managed little more than to remind voters that he prosecuted a war that shouldn't have been waged, and his own absense from duty coupled with Cheney's refusal to serve.

So far as discipline is concerned, freedom means not its absence but the use of higher and more rational forms as contrasted with those that are lower or less rational.
Charles Horton Cooley (1864–1929), U.S. sociologist. Human Nature and the Social Order, ch. 12 (1902).
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 01:05 PM
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23. Have they been to Florida?
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 01:21 PM
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24. Bush is backed by a well-oiled political machine,
the likes of which have never been seen in American politics before.

President Bush has the most money ever raised in a political campaign, breaking his own record set four years ago. He has a war chest of at least 250 million dollars -- more money by far than Dubya has squandered in failed business ventures. Because of the vagaries of the convention schedules, President Bush also has an entire extra month to spend his funds. Another huge advantage.

Carl Rove is the most brilliant political handler in history. Everything he does turns to gold. The Democrats have no chance against any candidate Rove is controlling. But it gets worse.

Because Carl Rove is fortunate to have President Bush as a candidate. Scion of a long line of successful politicians, 'Dubya," as he is affectionately known far and wide, learned the rough and tumble of politics working for his father. As a result, he became a seasoned political pro while still in his twenties. So not only is Carl Rove a genius beyond compare, but in George W. Bush, he has a pupil who was born and bred to win. It's a crushing combination on its own, but...

Dubya is also a brilliant debater. His debating skills come naturally to him -- he's never had to practice much. As a result of this native talent, Dubya has won every debate he's ever participated in. He has a unique style, based partially on his disarming, aww shucks Opie-like mannerisms. He allows his opponents to get overconfident, sucks them in with a seemingly foolish comment, and then pounces on them, sometimes with the help of a friendly moderator, leaving his once-confident opponent in tatters and silently cursing Dubya's matchless talent.


So the Democrats are in trouble. The question isn't if they will win or lose, but if they can make this lopsided contest appear close. I doubt it. The Democrats are huge underdogs, facing a relentless machine funded with a bottomless pit of corporate donations, that has a peerless brain in Carl Rove, and is driven by the matchless heart and talent of George W. Bush. Spread the word --we are underdogs, underdogs, underdogs, and Bush has never, and will never, make a mistake. He's going to crush Kerry in the debates like an anaconda would a field mouse. If Kerry is even within 15 points of Bush after the Republican convention, it will be a miracle.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 01:24 PM
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25. Actually it translates into the reporters
that cover them get better eats on one than the other.
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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 02:09 PM
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27. Impact has been lacking somewhat on the national level...
... but, from what I've seen, city-by-city impact has been phenomenal. Huge turnout, front-page coverage, etc.

And maybe that's been the plan. It could be that the next phase of the campaign, from the RNC onward, will focus on pulling all the local sucesses together on a national level now.

We're seeing more snappy sound-bites lately -- which is very encouraging because, like it or not, soundbites matter. And we've got a great bullpen of surrogates -- Dean and Clark are tops in my book. Here's hoping we'll see all of them getting on-message, speaking from the same list of talking points, as we enter the final innings of the game.
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