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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:49 PM
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This annoys me greatly...
Got an email from Democrats.com...
yay, we're united, we have a candidate and all that happy crap, right?
Uh, maybe not.
Here's how it starts out:

"It's all over the news: Hillary Clinton will formally endorse Barack Obama on Friday and the campaign for the White House will begin..."

Excuse me?

IIRC, this was a race between equal candidates to choose who would run against the GOP's candidate in November.

Where does Candidate A, who lost, get the power to "FORMALLY ENDORSE" Candidate B?
:wtf:

Quite an assumption of power there, to my way of thinking...
DOES the loser of a political race "formally endorse" the winner?

I'd think that privelege is reserved for people like John Edwards, Dennis K, Al Gore et al (read: people who have power and influence, but were not actively in the race).

JMHO....


:rant:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:52 PM
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1. Well, frankly, this is why so many are really upset about Sen. Clinton's behavior.
  In everything she does, there's a strong element of entitlement.

  She will be conceding to the victor of the Primary race three days after the rest of the world has

  Think about the above.

PB
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:52 PM
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2. Seems like Hillary said she would make an important speech
about endorsing Obama via email to her registered website users.

Maybe that's where Democrats.com got it.

:shrug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:53 PM
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3. "I'm ready for my close-up now, Mr. DeMille."
She's a parody of herself. :crazy:

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:56 PM
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9. She really thinks she's that special.
In her mind, Hillary imagines that this process cannot go forward until she decides to come down from the pedestal and bless it.

I will be so happy to see her, her wishes, and her family a non factor in this race.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:33 AM
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23. Ah, yes, Norma Desmond....
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:53 PM
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4. Yeah I'm really sick and tired of Hillary...
what she wants, what she does etc, etc, etc. being the headline. Obama is the winner NOT Hillary.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:01 PM
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17. as opposed to how Kucinich, Edwards, et. al. started focusing on helping Obama,
and/or tending to their other affairs out of the spotlight.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:18 PM
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26. Hillary, the new Paris Hilton?? Heh..... n/t
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:54 PM
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5. Good Christ...does anyone ever give it up where Clinton is concerned. Its over. What diff. is there?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:59 PM
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12. When she does, maybe others will.
The whole thing reeks of codependency. :shrug: Even with the sneering enablers.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:54 PM
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6. She's a super delegate. She can formally endorse him
I don;t have any qualms about her doing what she is doing.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:00 PM
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15. And when she does, the skies will open, the sun will shine, and choirs of angels will sing.
:rofl:

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:54 PM
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7. oh good Lord - get a life
get over it - time for the Clinton-hatred to be put behind you.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:55 PM
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8. Finally a voice for sanity.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:58 PM
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10. She is NOT actively in the race if she "formally endorses him
which is what this is speaking of. This is what we NEED and it is actually MORE important that she do this than anyone else as this resolves things. By the way, though I am no Clinton fan, she has more power and influence than Kuchinich and Edwards - as can be seen by their comparative number of votes.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:58 PM
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11. I would certainly preferred it if she had been much more gracious
than she was on Tuesday night; it's sad, because she hurt herself, I think, far more than she hurt him. If she had acknowledged and congratulated him on his victory, she would have salvaged SO much dignity.
I'm sure losing this contest must be heartbreaking, and I can't begin to know how she feels, but it seems that she really lost her way totally on this one, as far as good political instincts are concerned.
It bothered me even more that she was introduced on Tuesday as "the next president of the United States" by McAuliffe; I just about fell outta my chair, to be honest.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 07:59 PM
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13. Personally, this Obama supporter would welcome a formal endorsement from Hillary
especially if she really means it and releases her delegates; because it creeps me out if she doesn't,
but instead takes this "something might happen to Obama" posture and withholding her delegates until,
well, until when? Do you know if this "formal endorsement" means she's conceding her delegates?

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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:00 PM
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14. I don't know what the norm, is, frankly. This doesn't sound off the wall to me.
????
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:01 PM
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16. Have you forgotten that Senator Clinton is an elected Democratic official?
Do you not think that her formal endorsement of Senator Obama as the Democratic nominee will send a clear signal to her supporters that she is ready to move on and so should they? You are apparently so wrapped up in your dislike of Senator Clinton that you have let it cloud your judgment. Let it go and accept it for what it is.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:02 PM
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18. I don't think you'll find me in very many threads in GD:P...
...I've stayed out of the war zone, and my sole contribution to Barack Obama was my vote.
I don't think that can be construed as "Clinton-hating".

I merely object to the phrasing, and the fact that the drama is being drawn out...
and I know I'm not the only person who's more than ready for it to be OVER AND DONE WITH.

We've got serious fish to fry...we need to direct our energy there.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:05 PM
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19. attacking Hillary because
democrats.com says that Hillary will formally endorse Obama. Does it get any dumber?
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:06 PM
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20. John Edwards and Dennis K lost the same race
:shrug:

Frankly, if this annoys you greatly, you are going to be annoyed a lot from now until November.

The DNC is trying to make nice. Everyone already supporting Obama is supporting Obama. There are people, believe it or not, for whom Clinton's "formal endorsement" might make a difference (note: I'm not one of them, since I've been solidly in the tank for Obama since two days after Edwards dropped out).

This message is to them.

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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 08:13 PM
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21. Democrats.com is Bob Fertik.....
It's worded by Bob, not Clinton or her campaign. Why are you holding this against Clinton??? If it had been sent out by democrats.org (the DNC) maybe I can see getting so upset about the wording, but I simply don't get your outrage here.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:29 AM
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22. I'm not OUTRAGED.
I'm ANNOYED. Several degrees of magnitude difference there.

I ran out of outrage about 2 years ago.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 01:53 AM
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24. I don't get it
formally, as in "officially" and endorse, just like any one of 300 odd super delegates. Every one of the hundreds of super delegates, of which Hillary is one, has this radical "power" of endorsement. I don't get whats so remarkable about this?
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 02:00 AM
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25. So John Edwards wasn't actively in the race???
Tell that to the Edwards supporters here, I think they'll laugh.

Of course she gets to decide to formally endorse him. She could, after all, have decided instead to completely fracture the party beyond repair by trying for an independent bid, trying to push the Superdelegates to change their sides to make Obama lose enough delegates to not have his magic number, etc. If she decided to do these things, I'd have stopped supporting her -- this primary's already been divisive enough.

Many people said that it was the loser of this race who truly has the power to win or lose the Democratic bid for the White House. She's doing exactly what she needs to do to make sure a Democrat wins this year. If she didn't, I'd be ashamed of her.

What do you want her to do? Lick Obama's boots? Wear a hair shirt? Volunteer to be caned?

It would seem like your feeling is that it's too little, too late. And I admit it's pretty damn late. But don't diss her (likely belated) movements toward party unity. She's doing the right thing now.

She lost. Yep, she lost. I'll say it again, she lost. But the important thing now is doing what needs to be done so WE will win.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:22 PM
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27. Candidate A does not have to endorse Candidate B....
So yeah, Hillary didn't need to endorse Obama. Granted, there would be consequences to her personally, but no, she doesn't have to endorse. So yeah, I think she has the power to do so.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:47 PM
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28. Yes, that's how it's done.
Sheesh. What a short memory. Edwards WAS in the race! That's what made his endorsement important. Richardson was in the race. When he withdrew, he still had a constituency, and his endorsement carried some weight as a result.

Hillary's endorsement carries TREMENDOUS WEIGHT! 40-50% of the primary voters chose HER. You don't have to like it, but you need to respect it.

Or else, this unity thing isn't going to work.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:28 PM
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29. OK...I give. Sorry I said anything.
It was THE PHRASING OF THE EMAIL that I found annoying, OK?

I should know better...:banghead:
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