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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:02 PM
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Something worrying me...If the Clintons gave the Bushies Everything they Wanted,why didn't they WIN?
Nafta, Branch Davidians and Janet Reno, Somalia (that Poppy Bush left the Clintons),Privatization of our Government into "special bid contracts," Media Deregulation, SEC Deregulation and Banking Deregulation...starving out the Iraqi's and waging war in Kosovo...but from the TIME they TOOK OFFICE...the RIGHT WING was AFTER THERM...saying Hillary "killed Vince Foster and her buddies in the SS moved his body to the park. Then there was the plane that flew into the White House...a Terrorist Bombing, Kosovo...and through it all Whitewater and Ken Starr and the Media and then to "top it all off" "MONICA-GATE! and Impeachment!" Still they left us with a HUGE SURPLUS OF FUNDS...which Bush II spent away and over ...credit carding America into DEBT AS FAR AS EYE CAN SEE!

I don't know any President in "modern times" who has had to live through a bigger "witch hunt" in their two terms. "St. Ronnie" certainly didn't have any "witch hunts" and the rest are puny by comparison for "scandals" that caused Impeachment since Nixon.

I know all the bad stuff the Clintons "didn't address" ...but as they "ease off the scene of American Politics" can we ask WHY did the RW see them as such a "THREAT" that they worked througout their Administration and even after they vacated the White House with the VILEST ATTACKS on a President in History...with Full Media and Operatives going against them.

The Clintons gave the RW and Wall Street ALL THEY WANTED...but they didn't "roll back Roe vs. Wade, appointing RW Supremes to push it back. Was this what it was all about in the end? The Clintons refused to roll back "Roe vs Wade?"

If the Clinton's were so GOOD FOR REPUGS...WHY WERE THEY SO TRASHED AND VILLIFIED? Doesn't make sense.:shrug:
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:06 PM
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1. You're assuming a couple of things.
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 07:08 PM by Selatius
The biggest is the assumption that industrialists and bankers operate as a single monolith when they themselves are factionalized like any other group in society. It's true that the Telecommunications Act benefited a faction on Wall Street as well as with NAFTA. However, for some, such as the corporations that specialize in war and arms development, they were still desperately scrambling for a reason to continue to exist post-Cold War. With no Cold War, there was little justification to spend upwards of 300 to 400 billion a year on war.

Then, 9/11 came just at the right place, at the right time, with the right person in the White House. Today, the war budget stands over 600 billion a year.

The other assumption is that the Clinton White House knowingly worked hand-in-hand with Wall Street. It could simply be that Bill Clinton really was center-right in his economic philosophy, hence NAFTA and the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and the repeal of the Great Depression-era Glass-Steagall Act in 1999, which one economist blames as the reason for the sub-prime bloodshed.
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:13 PM
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2. He messed up their plan for indefinite control of the White House
They started with Reagan, and then Bush. They planned for Bush to serve 2 terms and then get another Republican in there. They wanted to keep the White House in Republican hands for 40 or 50 years. Clinton messed that up. They felt that he didn't belong there. It was *their* White House.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:17 PM
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3. One cardinal sin - they raised taxes on the wealthy
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 07:18 PM by OzarkDem
Part of Bill's economic reform plan he enacted early in his first term.

He also raised the wholesale gas tax, which was passed on to energy companies.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:18 PM
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4. To unite their party they needed a common enemy.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:29 PM
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5. The Republican party does NOT want Roe v. Wade overturned ...

The Republican party runs strictly on hot button issues, not reason. Abortion is their BIG trump card. If all else fails they will call you a baby killer. And it works ... A LOT. Why would they want that issue to go away? Why do they always put their anti-abortion amendments on the back burner until right before the election?

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:52 PM
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6. You have absorbed the wrong toilet roll
You need to think for yourself.
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