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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:37 PM
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"With malice toward none; with charity for all...."
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 12:44 PM by ColesCountyDem
...With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow and his orphan—to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations....

Abraham Lincoln

Second Inaugural Address

March 4th, 1865


With these heartfelt words-- this prayer, if you will-- my fellow Illinoisan, President Abraham Lincoln, expressed both his vision and his hope for a new beginning for our Republic. In that same spirit, I offer them to you, whether you be Clinton, Kucinich, Edwards, Dodd, Biden, Richardson, et al, supporters.

It is my hope, as it was President Lincoln's, that all men and women of good will can both see the difficult work ahead of us and join together with us in putting aside our prior differences to see that it comes to pass. A political party-- especially the Democratic Party-- is like a family: the more deeply we love each other, the more desperately and bitterly we quarrel, at times. That said, not only do WE need each other but, more importantly, our NATION needs us to set aside those differences, to forgive those slights and insults-- both real and imagined-- and extend to one another the hand of friendship and the kiss of peace.

Please take my hand, accept my embrace and apology, because you are my progressive brothers and sisters, and I need you to join with me in the great, common cause of restoring our Republic.

Peace be with you.

:hug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:40 PM
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1. Abe's worst mistake.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 12:41 PM by JVS
He should have had every confederate soldier shot.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:43 PM
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2. Or Congress's, for ignoring his wisdom... n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:45 PM
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3. Death to treasonous scum! The congress was not harsh enough.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:08 PM
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4. So, we should hang everyone who didn't support Sen. Obama?
I'm just trying to follow your reasoning here...

:wtf:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:19 PM
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5. No. You should pick examples of reconciliation that were not mistakes of such magnitude as to be...
national tragedies.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:24 PM
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6. There was no 'reconciliation', and THAT was the mistake.
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 01:24 PM by ColesCountyDem
Lincoln died just one month and ten days later, and Reconstruction under the radical Republicans controlling Congress was anything but 'charitable'.

It's a good thing to actually know American history...
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:35 PM
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7. Reconstruction was too charitable. Southern society was not broken of its defiance.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:38 PM
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9. Nor the North of its arrogance and self-righteousness.
The North was every bit as bigoted toward blacks; it was simply that many Southerners were more open about it. Take a look at Chicago or South Boston, e.g., for examples of this bigotry and hatred.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:31 AM
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10. It was only reconstruction that prevented Jim Crow from being done earlier
Once reconstruction ended, it was back to virtual slavery.

Everyone who raised arms against the Union should have been shot.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:06 AM
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12. Jawol!
Zey should all have been shot, ja? Zat is VERY progressive!

:eyes:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:07 AM
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14. It's better than leaving the slaveocracy intact.
Edited on Tue Jun-10-08 06:09 AM by JVS
All who fought against the Union deserved death.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:11 AM
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15. What a novel idea.
Even the most radical of Republicans never suggested such a thing!

:wtf:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:12 AM
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16. I have a feeling that General Sherman might have come close to such a view.
He was a great leader and patriot!
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 09:42 AM
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18. Actually, his views were nothing of the sort.
Not even Gen. Sheridan, who burned the Shenandoah to deprive the Army of Northern Virginia of food, etc. felt that way.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:15 AM
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17. Should all German soldiers have been shot after World War II?
If so, elaborate.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 02:37 AM
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11. "more open about it" = "used to own slaves"
Is that the equation?
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 06:07 AM
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13. No, it isn't the equation. n/t
:eyes:
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:32 PM
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8. Self-kick. n/t
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