Wes Clark told the NY Times he would have voted in favor of IWR

[nebula]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9805E6DB133AF93AA2575AC0A9659C8B63


133 members of Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution of 2002.
Did they display better judgment on Iraq then this 4-star general?

[thewiseguy]

1. Take his name off the VP list.

[Hope And Change]

7. I agree.

[Clark2008]

13. Why?

The NY Times article is trash, factually incorrect and doesn't even consider that Clark TESTIFIED IN FRONT OF CONGRESS THAT GOING TO WAR IN IRAQ WAS A STUPID MOVE.

[npincus]

24. Hell, yes.

Who would hand a f*cking brainless MONKEY the power to declare war?

[cliffordu]

2. I don't get what you're about other than showing a little contempt for Clark.

[nebula]

10. It isn't personal

I have nothing personal against Clark. I find him to be quite likeable.

But I do question his previous judgment on this war.

[quantass]

12. I 2nd you.

[Tinksrival]

25. Don't listen to him..her..it!

They are a smear merchant! Harumph!!

"You will determine whether rage or reason guides the United States in the struggle to come. You will choose whether we are known for revenge or compassion. You will choose whether we, too, will kill in the name of God, or whether in His name, we can find a higher civilization and a better means of settling our differences"

Wes Clark

[Clark2008]

16. Why?

That isn't a true story.

Please read my posts. He was never FOR that resolution and he testified against going to war in Iraq. His judgment, unlike yours apparently, is impeccable in this situation.

[Adelante]

31. His judgment was the same as Obama's judgment in 2002

Clark has said a million times he would not have voted for the IWR. He would have voted for the Levin Amendment to the IWR, which called for a second vote by Congress after a UN resolution. Ted Kennedy even said they almost, but not quite, had the votes to stop the IWR and they just needed more time. The Levin Amendment had that purpose. Every single person in both houses who has ever commented about Clark's influence on their IWR vote voted NO. You have been here long enough and this has been discussed often enough that you know it by now. You seem to have something else on your mind.

[CherokeeDem]

3. Damn...

that dissapoints me. I suppose it's no worse than my primary candidate, John Edwards, voting for it but at least, Edwards apologized. I am glad that Clark is being honest and I don't believe he would vote that way now, knowing what we know (and what many knew then).



Edited: hit post before I was done...

[Connie_Corleone]

4. Didn't we go thru this crap in 2004?

[MadBadger]

6. The OP is trying to start trouble.

[cliffordu]

18. My thought exactly.

I'm sorry, not everyone got the IWR vote right. Even some really fine people were mislead.

[Clark2008]

20. But Clark wasn't for this.

So it's a moot point.

[cliffordu]

21. I just learned the diff between the two amendments -

I will defend Clark against the IWR smear with the facts, now.

THANKS!! (Even I learn something on occasion...)

:hi:

[Clark2008]

27. Thank YOU for reading and paying attention.

That's all I ask when it comes to defending smears against Clark (or any other candidate).

:hi:

[high density]

22. Yes

But for some people live to troll.

[MadBadger]

5. WTF is wrong with you?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. He Was A RAW Candidate At The Time...His Position Was Much More SUBTLE

~

[wyldwolf]

9. so did Bill Richardson - as a matter of fact.

[Clark2008]

11. You forgot the conditions...

Clark, WHO TESTIFIED IN FRONT OF CONGRESS NOT TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ, told supporters on a plane that if certain conditions were met, he may have voted for a similar resolution - like one of the several offered by Democratic senators - that put more pressure on the president to prove he was acutally trying diplomacy first.

Clark, in the early days of his campaign, didn't realize how LITERAL one has to be when talking with the media. You cannot speculate or talk issues out because they'll get the wrong idea and run with it.

For the record, Clark, I'll reiterate, TOLD CONGRESS NOT TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ.

[Clark2008]

14. The Resolution Wes Clark was FOR

The Levin Amendment- The Resolution that Wes Clark was "For"!

http://rapidfire-silverbullets.com/

Wes Clark was "for" an Iraq resolution, it just happens that it wasn't the one passed in the Senate on October 10, 2002. Clark favored and pushed for the Levin Amendment, the only resolution offered that confined Bush to going to the United Nations to appeal to the U.N. the need for a possible use of force in Iraq. If the President couldn't get what he wanted from the United Nations, he was to return to the Congress prior to taking further action. In other words, the Levin Amendment was not a Carte Blanche to wage war. Instead it was a road map that pointed first to the U.N., and if unable to persuade them, Bush was to come back for a second authorization from Congress to use unilateral force.

The Levin Amendment was the Resolution that would have dramatically slowed our march into an elective war that we didn't need to fight aka, the Biggest Strategic Blunder in American History.

Sen. Chafee, the Rhode Island Senator, the lone Republican to have voted against the Lieberman IWR , and who was defeated in his 2006 re-election bid wrote a scathing Op-Ed in the NYT recently asking why Senators who were "sorry" about their "mistaken" vote hadn't bothered to vote for the Levin Amendment if they only "wanted" to give Bush the authority to work through the U.N.?

Just check out what EPIC was stating just a day before the 2002 Iraq War Resolution vote!

Continue reading "The Levin Amendment- The Resolution that Wes Clark was "For"!" http://www.rapidfire-silverbullets.com/2007/03/the_levin_amendment_the_resolu.html#more

[Adelante]

15. You were here in 2004

You should know better than this.

[ecstatic]

17. Would that be before or after reading the NIE? Or would that not even matter

to Mr. Clark?

[Clark2008]

19. Mr. Clark - that's general to you - was not for the Lieberman IWR

He was for the Levin Amendment that would have restricted Shrub to UN negotiations.

I'll keep repeating this until everyone understands.

[Barack_America]

23. Meh. That article is from 2003. He's also expressing his support for the Levin Amendment.

Rather than the IWR as we know it.

[Allyoop]

26. Consider the source

Nagourney delights in writing articles that twist the truth.

[Stinky The Clown]

28. You're a fucking liar as has been pointed out in THIS thread. If you want to smear someone .........

......... at least use ACTUAL FACTS, which you have NOT done.

[wvbygod]

32. Hard to argue against a man's own words

''At the time, I probably would have voted for it, but I think that's too simple a question,'' General Clark said.

A moment later, he said: ''I don't know if I would have or not. I've said it both ways because when you get into this, what happens is you have to put yourself in a position -- on balance, I probably would have voted for it.''

Either way, his answer can be taken many ways as he likely intended. Typical politico trying
to satisfy everyone at once. Hardly worth calling a fellow DUer a "fucking liar" for repeating
the words of the man himself.

[Sparkly]

29. Oh for cryin' out loud.

This has been discussed to death, for years!!

:eyes:

[truebrit71]

30. Really? This debunked shit again?

:eyes: