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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:36 PM Original message |
Should the government pay for a woman's right to choose an abortion? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think we should have single payer health care, which would include reproductive health care. nt |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. Amen. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Beat me to it |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Right - it's about health care & privacy. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. Yes, and thank you n/t |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Right on. |
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TooBigaTent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. Health care is health care. If it is (still) legal, then it should be covered. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. Under a Single-Payer plan, yes. n/t |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. unless and until there is national health care then no |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. Why? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. paying for elective abortions should come after paying to save people's lives |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. If you want to argue pure cost alone |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. that is irrelevent |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:08 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Now THAT is truly irrelevant |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. My post was crystal clear |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. ...and irrelevant. N/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yes and no. |
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RichGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. In a discussion with a fundie... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
58. Great response. nt |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. The Constitution protects my right to own guns....where can I send my list.....? nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
8. Elective procedures/surgery shouldn't be covered at this point, including fertilization treatments |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Do you consider abortion an elective procedure? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. as a woman who has had one, IMO it's generally elective. Though certainly of more consequence |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Then C-sections shouldn't be covered either. Nor any other type of pregnancy/delivery-related care |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. that's absurd. Once you're pregnant ensuring a healthy fetus and delivery are MANDATORY. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
64. So? So what? Pregnancy is still an ELECTIVE condition. Why should I have to help pay for your |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. That's crazy. I had an emergency c-section because the baby could not |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. The issue isn't whether the baby should die, the issue is that you CHOSE |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Do you feel that way about public schools as well? You sound quite bitter. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. exactly. having children is a lifestyle choice. n/t |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. "Elective" and "Emergent" are medical terms; you are using it improperly |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. According to Websters |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
9. Is the question whether Medicaid should pay for them? |
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shagsak (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. paid for by the government? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think the cost should be lower nt |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
13. No |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. In that case don't have one. |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
54. I'm not a woman. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Then this isn't your issue. |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. what are you smoking? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. DoD can fund abortions when mother is in danger or rape or incest. (10 USC 1093) |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. I think that's a distraction designed to inflame |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
18. Access to healthcare should not be gated by wealth. nt. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
20. The religious right is trying to STOP abortions. Your argument is misleading. |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
56. read it again then. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
21. Yes. Universal, single-payer, not-for-profit health care. |
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BklynChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. good health insurance covers it, and should. |
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colinmom71 (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
23. As the current government "health system" is designed, I'd have to say no for now... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
24. Under single-payer, I can't see why not. Currently, I can't see why. |
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Geoff R. Casavant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. In my mind there is a difference between a right and a liberty |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. maybe they should also buy me a pistol |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
28. Of course it should be taken care of by single payer, like other health care. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
29. Does the gov't pay for our right to no bill of attainder? |
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sakura (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. Should the government pay for viagra? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. No, although Viagra is not a birth control method. |
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sakura (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Uh...yeah. But that's not my point (obviously) |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
31. It should be considered a birth control method, and I think the government |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
32. It makes sense from a cost perspective |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
33. No. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
36. Actually, in many states Medicaid pays for some abortions. |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
37. YES - because there should be single-payer universal healthcare |
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sakura (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
39. If there is a single-payer, presumably the government, then the answer is yes. |
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sourmilk (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. Perhaps you should phrase your question a little more clearly? |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Roe versus Wade |
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sourmilk (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Thanks - pretty starange and interesting stuff... |
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Midwestern Democrat (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. NO. n/t |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
44. This is like a question one would hear on Rush |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. first of all, |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Actually........ |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
48. IMHO: Yes, but it could be a problem when trying to get single payer. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. With a universal single payer system |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
60. No nt |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
61. Medicaid in Michigan covered it until around 1990 |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
72. I would rather pay for it with tax $$$ than a woman have to wait while she saved to pay for it. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
75. They pay for Viagra but not BC... so, YES, abortions should be covered!!! |
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