WHO CARES?! Yes, we know Clinton voted no, and Obama voted yes.

[Hawkeye-X]

STAY FOCUSED ON THE TASK AT HAND - OBAMA ALREADY PROMISED THAT HE WILL FIX/FIGHT FISA RULES WHEN HE IS PRESIDENT. ONLY CHIMP CAN ABUSE THIS THING FOR ABOUT 4 MONTHS BUT WE ARE WATCHING HIM LIKE HAWKS.

Hawkeye-X

[cags]

1. His vote wouldn't have mattered anyway, so why not make a gesture that he means it?

[writes3000]

8. Because the one issue that he's most vulnerable on is national security!

The GOP is waiting to hammer him as weak on terrorism any way they can.

So why give them a weapon when as you say as a practical matter - it wouldn't have changed the overall outcome?

[cags]

10. but could he have lost the faith of some of his voters?

[writes3000]

15. The majority of this country is EASILY terrified of any perceived terrorist threat.

We are being incredibly NAIVE if we think Obama doesn't have to work overtime to protect himself from attacks on that front.

Be honest: If you poll most Americans and asked them if they'd be okay with wiretapping if it meant they and their kids would be safer from terrorist attacks, guess what their answer would be.

[azmesa207]

2. Obama will fight

what a crock he didn't fight now he won't fight it later he left the country down and broke his word
Its typical of his supporters to give him a free ride .

[cags]

Exactly... There is no reason he couldn't start the fight now

[MarjorieG]

12. Me thinks you're an agitator.

[writes3000]

16. You're being too kind. n/t

[tridim]

17. Who do you "support"?

[TechBear_Seattle]

3. Spoken like a true partisan

Had John McCain bothered to vote on FISA, I have no doubt you would be trumpeting his vote as proof of his being unfit to hold the Presidency.

[DJ13]

4. Much of the outrage at Obama along with praise for Hillary is coming from

.....former Hillary supporters.

Anyone checked the infamous pro-Hillary sites to see if they planned on trying to use this to disrupt?

[GodlessBiker]

13. ... and Obama supporters, like this one. The response to Obama should be...

Yes, he sold out on this issue. For whatever reason, he sold out. He is not perfect. He will make mistakes. He is not as liberal as most people on DU, so we have to get used to being mad at him from time to time. He will disappoint even disgust us from time to time.

But, we have learned that it is not a good thing to throw out the baby just because we can't have the bathwater. Yes, if we had our druthers, Kucinich would be president, but that isn't going to happen. So, now what? We do the best we can with what we have. We vote for Obama, even with this disgusting cave-in, because our lives and our laws will be better with him as president.

[MGKrebs]

20. Not sure if I belive that.

HRC supporters likely were resigned to this kind of politics long ago. No reason for us to be upset anymore beyond a little wistful smugness. It's more likely the Obama supporters who had different expectations that are upset.

But what would be the point of your post anyway?

[chimpymustgo]

5. Oh let's send them a sternly worded letter as well. GET REAL. No, it's probably much

more comfortable - not to mention cooler looking - to keep on the rose-colored glasses. Enjoy the Kool-aid. Relax. Enjoy American Idol. It's all good.

FUCK THE CONSTITUTION.

[azmesa207]

6. Obama

broke his first promise not to support the bill in the first place he will break it again even if he is elected he two faced .

[crankychatter]

26. congratulations for spelling "Obama" correctly NT

[Bluebear]

7. LOL

[FredfromSpace]

9. I care.

As do a few thousand others I have encountered in the past week or two.

Besides, why should I trust Obama to fix it later when he said he would support a filibuster, then voted against one today?

I will vote for him.

But I will not forget or forgive what he did today.

I am a bit too old to become a cheerleader anyway, at this late date.

[katty]

11. Fix and Fight? No, they Got the Power-and will KEEP IT, that's

how the world works.

[PBS Poll-435]

14. I will mow your lawn for 25 bucks. But ya gotta pay me first.

I *promise* I will do it after you pay me.

[BigDDem]

18. "Who cares?"

I do, but clearly I'm in the minority around here.

[anonymous171]

19. Wouldn't have mattered because she isn't the King of the Senate like Obama.

Obama is the one who decides which bills pass and which do not. That's why there is so much pressure on him.

[Hawkeye-X]

21. That's actually incorrect.

The bill controller's responsibility lies on Harry Reid - he's the one needs to be eviscerated for even bringing it on the floor.

Hawkeye-X

[high density]

22. What???

You have no clue what you are talking about unless I missed the part where Obama was sworn in as president and obtained veto power.

[Thrill]

23. Its easy to vote no. When you know the vote means nothing

[MNDemNY]

24. Yes, stay focused Fuck the 4th amendment!

[CakeGrrl]

25. Aren't posts about Hillary's vote off-topic in GD:P?

Sounds like an excuse for people to start crap over the primaries again. Shouldn't those be moved out of this forum?

[AZ Criminal JD]

27. How are you watching the chimp "like hawks"?

Are you in charge of the NSA? I didn't think so.