You all know damn well that Hillary would have voted for this bill

[Max_powers94]

if she was in Obama shoes so cut the bull crap.

[jobycom]

1. I doubt it.

[TwilightGardener]

2. Doesn't really matter what she does or doesn't do. She's just a Senator now.

[Max_powers94]

4. u hit the nail on the head

[StevieM]

30. She's more then just another senator to me. And a lot of other people. She is my leader and I

respect her voice and her values.

Steve

[wyldwolf]

3. LOL!

[bunnies]

Is that the PUMA logo?

:shrug:

[wyldwolf]

10. no, why would you ask that?

:shrug:

[bunnies]

13. A crying baby. Seems fitting. nt

[wyldwolf]

14. applies to anyone who is whining...

PUMA or otherwise. The OP for example.

[bunnies]

26. Agreed. nt

[anonymous171]

Wouldn't have mattered because she isn't the king of the Senate like Obama.

[writes3000]

5. Anyone bringing up Hillary Clinton at this point is still living in the past's battles.

It's over.

[DJ13]

6. If she can vote for an illegal war just to look tough, yes you're right

[Max_powers94]

9. bingo

[jobycom]

22. Good thing she didn't

But you know that, whether you'll admit it or not.

[Gman]

7. The question is who did the RIGHT THING? Hillary or Obama?

Who voted right and who voted wrong? WHO???

[TwilightGardener]

16. Hillary no longer matters. She's just a Senator, same as Kerry, Biden, Dodd, Cantwell, etc.

[Gman]

17. And she represented her constituency well. That's why she's the best VP pick of all

[TwilightGardener]

18. Nope.

[leftynyc]

8. But she isn't in Sen Obama's shoes

so stop blaming her for his pandering. SHE VOTED THE RIGHT WAY TODAY. And still she gets shit on.

[Max_powers94]

11. She voted that way to under-cut Obama

[leftynyc]

12. She couldn't win today

That much is obvious. Either she votes the correct way and gets shit on or she votes the wrong way and we get shit on. Understood.

[democrattotheend]

19. Maybe, but it was still the right vote

I agree with you that she did the right thing for the wrong reasons but she still did the right thing. I am not going to criticize her for voting the right way even though part of me wants to, because I agree with everything her detractors are saying about why she did it. But the bottom line is, she cast the right vote and deserves some props for that. And Obama brought this on himself by voting the wrong way. I am still just as enthusiastic about his candidacy as I was before but I am not going to attack Clinton or anyone else for voting the right way on a bill.

[BlueStater]

15. And if Obama was in the senate during 2002, he would have voted for the IWR. n/t

[Captain Hilts]

21. Especially if he was in NYS. nt

[Median Democrat]

23. But We Do Know How Hillary and Obama Voted On BK Reform

Hillary ultimately avoided voting on the final version of the bill, and now claims she opposed it, but it was virtually identical to original version she supported.

[Captain Hilts]

20. Perhaps, perhaps not.

Why no similar sensitivity for the pressures on Clinton in 2003?

[sniffa]

24. Be careful now

I sense an obnoxious counter thread to this coming.

[sufrommich]

25. I know no such thing,and neither do you. nt

[Marie26]

27. I doubt it

She's spoken out against retroactive immunity since the beginning. And Clinton's national security/hawk creds are sufficiently strong that it'd be harder to Swiftboat her as soft on terror.

[highplainsdem]

28. I doubt it.

[barack the house]

29. AMEN.

[theliberalking]

31. There\'s no way to know

Sometimes we should just admit we have no idea of how things would turn out, because we don\'t have a crystal ball.