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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:47 PM
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Hillary Sticks With Pledge: Votes NO on Wiretap Bill.
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 05:47 PM by BeatleBoot
Obama caves - doesn't Filibuster as Promised, Votes YES.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Clinton_Obama_split_on_wiretap_vote_0709.html
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:47 PM
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1. I wonder why she skipped the last FISA vote?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:36 AM
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39. Probably for the same reason Obama did
That doesn't score you a point.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:47 PM
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Yes, Hillary deserves praise etc
But there are like 7 threads on this right now.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:49 PM
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5. There should be 50 times that
Its that important.

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:47 PM
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2. Go Hillary!!
Good for her!
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:28 PM
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27. yes
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:35 PM
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35. Yes!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:48 PM
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3. Why does Hillary want the terrorists to attack us?
If we really want act stupid, why make it half-assed?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:50 PM
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8. Excuse me?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:49 PM
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4. Wrong forum. This belongs in GD.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:50 PM
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7. Nope. Obama caved.
So sorry.

Where's the Filibuster?
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:49 PM
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6. of course he wasn't going to filibuster . . .
that was obvious
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:51 PM
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10. I agree
By him promising to filibuster, it meant the opposite.



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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:50 PM
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9. Hillary has nothing to lose, she's over....n/t
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:57 PM
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14. So we're to assume if she were slouching towards Denver to be nominated, she would have
betrayed the Constitution, too?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:49 AM
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46. I think she may be just
getting started. If that is the case we will all benefit.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:52 PM
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:52 PM
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12. Hillary voted for the Patriot Act. Twice. nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:02 PM
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18. and to give the "gift of freedom" to Iraqi children
I guess all is forgiven now? :shrug:
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:03 PM
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19. That just means Hillary Flipped Flopped Twice
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 06:05 PM by Median Democrat
In fact, Hillary Supported Wiretapping:

http://www.factcheck.org/article416.html
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:05 PM
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22. And cluser bombs. She loves those too.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:54 PM
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13. Thank you Hillary!
You can rest well tonight knowing you did the right thing.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:58 PM
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15. Obama is the presumptive nominee for president, Hillary is not.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:03 PM
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20. Then he should have led by his actions.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:05 PM
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21. Hillary would've done exactly the same thing and don't try to tell me otherwise.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:00 PM
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37. At least with Obama, the cave-in was a surprise.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:07 PM
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24. Look what the cat dragged in!
Seems we have an all out effort on our hands.
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LowerManhattanite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:40 AM
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42. Nobody Expects The Grief Brigade! (Actually, we did on this! LOL!) n/t
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 02:45 AM by LowerManhattanite
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:50 AM
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47. Careful
be very careful.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 05:59 PM
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16. Good job Hillary! nt
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:00 PM
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17. The primaries are over kids.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:07 PM
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31. Wiretapping is for Adults
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cloud75 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:05 PM
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23. Go Hillary!!!!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:22 PM
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25. Go Hillary! You're still my girl!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:24 PM
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26. Hillery, Hillery who?
Odd to be talking about her in GD-P.

Uh, P as in President Obama, BTW
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:38 AM
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40. I think it's even odder
to see somebody in GDP who can't spell "Hillary".
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:31 PM
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28. She had a no show for Feb 12th FISA immunity bill
She hid from the immunity bill on the Feb 12 th vote and yesterday voted for the fisa stay bill on that Feb 12th no show vote.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:39 PM
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29. But they don't care. Because it's just a way to bash Obama for them. nt
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:58 PM
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30. The difference is that she is not running for anything anymore.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:40 AM
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41. So running for something gives one carte blanche
to vote wrong?

I learn so much reading this board these days. I see a certain... um.. flexibility... that I never would've imagined.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:53 PM
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49. Of course not. But as the nominee Obama has political considerations...
that Clinton does not have. And BTW, I oppose Obama's stand on FISA even though I understand why he felt that he had to do what he did.
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:40 AM
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44. You're suggesting that Obama will do and say anything to get elected? Harsh.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:50 PM
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48. Not at all. I'm saying that if Clinton were the nominee she would have voted the other way.
I meant no dispersions on Obama.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:14 PM
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32. Wow
Obama never promised to filibuster. He said he'd support one. There weren't enough votes for a filibuster.

And while all of you continue to praise Clinton for her no vote today, I will continue to scorn her for her vote that allowed me to attend a funeral at Arlington National Cemetary.

And I expect my post will be seen as trolling or whatever because I really don't post here much. But I know someone who posts here from another board and I would bet that she'd vouch for me and let everyone know that I'm not a troll.

Hillary Clinton deserves no praise from me. She voted for this illegal war that has cost over four thousand of our men and woman to die for lies.

She's voted twice for the Patriot Act. Another bill that takes away your rights.

Sorry, one vote doesn't make me forget standing at the graveyard watching a loved one being lowered because of lies.
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:39 AM
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43. "There weren't enough votes for a filibuster." But there were for the Hillary votes you don't like?
Insane double standard.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:17 PM
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33. Good. Perhaps we should offer her a cookie.
Then a sticker if she goes poopy in the fucking potty afterwards. Would that be OK, Mr. Concern Troll?
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:34 PM
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34. Brava, Hillary! Kudos to her and all who voted against FISA today.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:38 PM
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36. Thank you Hillary! n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:45 AM
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38. She's a MONSTER11111 This is HUGH11111111
;)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:47 AM
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45. I get a sense that we may start
to see the "real" Hillary emerge. And it will be fun.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:03 PM
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