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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:33 PM Original message |
To the purists: You would fail Obama for giving you 95% of what you want? |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. I would, but the FISA capitulation is worth more than 5% |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. The 4th amendment got trampled long ago. Were you paying attention? |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
75. So two wrongs make a right? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Get real. It was trampled on A LONG time ago. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. I highly doubt he'll give me anywhere near that percentage, but I am capable of holding my nose. BUT |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. My guts are churning in that direction too... |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
66. The attitude in your post will help the GOP right into the White House. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Right. Election theft will have nothing to do with it. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Thanks to people like you, they won't need it. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I'm already voting for Obama instead of my own party's candidate. That smarts far more than your |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Then perhaps you should keep your fire on McCain instead of Obama. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. What fire? Where have I fired on Obama? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. What is with this "purist" strawman anymore? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No This isn't about FISA. This is about the constant bitching on almost everything |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Quite frankly, the whining about it is getting a lot more play than the |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. No, no I won't. These people need to be called out on this B.S. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:43 PM Original message |
this is ALL about FISA.. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. Did you even read the first line of my post. He wasn't my candidate originally, but |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Guess What |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. The RW doesn't need help when it has the hysterical people on the Left doing it's work. |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. But the Republicans were going to crucify him anyway, on something. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. 35%-45% still believe another terrorism attack is right around the corner. |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. 35%-45% believe what they're told. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You're right... and consider that BushCo made up this whole terrorist meme |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
45. "So many people"? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. A lot. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. Really? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Do you assume I like FISA? I don't. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. You don't give people enough credit |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. I am well versed in that Franklin quote. I also know it is a better idea to keep your fire |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I think willfully giving up freedom |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Did you see what I said? Most of our revered political leaders gave up |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Giving up what we already have in the way of liberty is just plain stupid |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. By your standard that you were arguing earlier it certainly is. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
78. I have no crystal ball better than you do... |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. FISA's the one and only issue? Really? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. Oh stop with the "purist" bullshit |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I am for holding Obama accountable on this issue IF he makes it to the White House. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. WTF? So we absolve everyone of what they say... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Actually, to a great extent, yes. This is politics. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. No, nor was Bush before them! |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Terrorism is not a totally made up threat. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. And Bush helped al Qaeda to grow stronger |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. It's All Theory Right Now |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. ** McCain approves of anti-Obama liberal purists ** |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. free republic is a great place to exercise one's blind devotion |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. They at least understand you should keep most of your fire on the enemy instead |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Some people say it gives him reason to visit the internets--but not while Cindy's around... nt |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
16. He will get my vote |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. They're not going to listen... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. What a crock of shit |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
85. Ok, enough |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Quit making shit up and beating others up with it |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. They're all playing right into the Reps hands. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Mission Accomplished My Ass |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. So you like the hysteria on DU right now??? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. What do you suggest? |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Do you think 1500 or more posts on this subject for the last week |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. No, I don't |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I agree with you on that. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Agreed |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. You really think those on DU who want to keep the focus on McCain instead of Obama |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. No, they think we are marching in lockstep and we hate the Constitution. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. You should practice what you preach |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. I don't take more than 5% off for FISA |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Exactly my point. |
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rg302200 (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. I am not sending a dime to the ACLU |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. I'm not going to put any politician above the constitution and my rights protected therein. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Then take McCain as your guardian of civil liberties. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. What utter bullshit... this smarmy, whiny, "then you can have McCain" |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Damn straight! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
29. He lost 5% from me for FISA, that leaves 995% |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. 95%? |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:03 PM Original message |
Well, my figure is for what I could realistically want |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Bullshit on the withdrawing from Iraq. 16 months is about as fast as you can do it. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
84. Pay attention! |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
36. Yeah- that's it....... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
37. To far right enablers: |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Well said... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. I'm an enabler? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. You are furthering BushCo policy! Do the math! eom |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. I do not support the bill that was passed so I really don't see how. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Giving someone else a pass is the same thing... eom |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. And how exactly do you propose we hold Obama "accountable" in the current context? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. You are putting words in my mouth and your choices are ludicrous and stupid |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. FUCKIN' A depakid! |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
86. we'll end up with 0 with mcshame |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
88. It's BIGGER than that. This goes to the very core of what he is about. |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
89. What's with the term Purist? It's insulting |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
90. I'm certainly still voting Obama but the FISA vote has (perhaps temporarily) tempered |
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