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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 07:51 PM Original message |
Quoting too many experts on the FISA bill .... |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. i've noticed this too |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. I dealt a little with that today |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. It is amazing. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
82. You Don't Need to Read the 114-Page Verision |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Oh look, you're a busy little bee aren't you. Agitating against Obama. |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm sure there are many FISA supporters too... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Good. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. FISA, as originally written |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Exactly, it is what they have done to this authority. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. As a matter of fact, Bush broke the laws as FISA was originally written |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Someone breaks a law so Congress weakens it? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I don't know what Congress has to do with anything I said. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
77. Who do you imagine passed the revision you spoke of? |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. FISA needs to be in good hands, that's true. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
130. Keep telling yourself this stuff. It may help you sleep better. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Usrename, you about cover it. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. So your view is a majority of the Democrats in congress are opposed to basic security? |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Sadly, yes, I disagree with their votes. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. But you think bush and McCain are up on technology and security? |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. They had no choice. FISA is awesome. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. It has already effected innocent people. That's why there are 40 law suits. |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. OMG. Blackmailed??? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. The govt has prob. wiretapped congress.... |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #64 |
158. Actually, most people have a lot to lose. Your thinking is way skewed. |
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catrose (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #158 |
161. And I for one |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
144. FISA obviously had nothing to do with "security" and everything to do with |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. FISA = having a police force? |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
71. FISA != entering homes or taking personal property |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
54. I don't agree with you, but I do enjoy the refreshing honesty of your statement. |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Who's ingornace, yours or mine? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Hello in there. nt |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Hi, nice to meet you. |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
79. That's yet to be determined. But a breath of fresh air is a breath of fresh air. |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #79 |
95. Plot away. Nobody cares. |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #95 |
105. fttt. flight of arrows overhead |
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NattPang (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Can't this be posted in GD? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I said I was heading there. But this is the forum where I was accused. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. "destructive repetition" |
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NattPang (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. 21 days of FISA complaints in the Presidential forum is repetition |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. What's even sadder it's by the same people with the same links saying the |
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NattPang (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. At this point, it is like stabbing the already dead. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Too true. Then I'll end it here. See you in another thread NP!! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R - well done, madflordian. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. Let me tell you what the problem is with using "legal experts" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Glad you are an expert. I am not. I rely on groups and people I trust. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I never said I was an expert. If I have trouble I'm not shy about asking for help. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yes, talk to Skinner about it. I would appreciate that. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. But this is showing not your problem with FISA so much your malcontent with |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
114. I am not talking about FISA, but the bill that was passed. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Well said and completely on point |
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LVjinx (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
140. So you agree with George Bush, Rush Limbaugh, and all the Rep senators instead of experts? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes its a problem |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. So you discredit all those I posted? Wow? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. if they cant stand up for their opinions |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
111. self delete |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. Damn, and to think I trusted all these people all this time. |
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NattPang (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. You foolishness is duly noted. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. You seem to be an expert on obscession... Welcome to DU. It's wonderful you came |
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NattPang (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:38 PM Original message |
Thank you. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
48. snarf! |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
50. I don't know. I would make a lousy cop. I'm not constantly uptight about where and what |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. If you don't learn for yourself then...yes...you are foolish. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 01:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
112. If you are such an expert |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
55. I understand you |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I appreciate that. I am going to study that flow chart more carefully. |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
94. Balkinization is one of the best |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. I read a lot of it |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
92. Work not entertainment for sure |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #55 |
98. That was a great link it leads to lots of honest discusion of the bill |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #98 |
107. Your welcome |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. Mad Floridian... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Gotcha. They discredit all those people, and you say I am making waves. |
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LowerManhattanite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Well...there's the problem right there. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. I made the point. They will discredit all those people to defend a vote. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
154. There *is* a win here: Some of us want open discussion of this most distressing issue. |
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catrose (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #154 |
162. Thank you, MF |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. looks to me like many are having constitution fatigue...... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. Bush says it gives future immunity as well. Is he wrong, too? Or he is right? |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. Yup. Of course. It leaves all past and existing systems and programs in place - and fully secured |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. It is fine to use accomplished people as sources, but you should almost always analyze/digest |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Which sources do you discredit? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
38. I will take each and every one of your sources with |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. No, the FISA vote will not haunt them. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
42. If you find a transcript of the Chris Hedges and ACLU c-span Q&A, it;s worthwhile |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Human rights watch can't get people to talk to them.... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
46. You have a problem with your obsession with FISA. Why are you posting this in this forum anyway? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Your post has nothing to do with Obama and FISA . Why did you post it here on Mad Floridians thread? |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
156. Obama is our assumed nominee; Obama has just given his support to ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
51. I made my point. Some will discredit everyone and anyone... |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #51 |
121. I have decided to do the same... |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
62. One would think that 8 straight days of bitching about this would be enough for anyone. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. God, yes. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. "Fiddle-dee-dee, Constitution, Constitution, Constitution... |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. But Miss Scahlet, I don't know nuthin bout protectin no constitution! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Very true. Now please fetch me Aunt Pittypat's smelling salts! |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #66 |
101. If whining at DU solved problems in America, there wouldn't be any problems left!! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
69. Thanks, it has been interesting and disheartening to watch this |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Yes, true experts, unlike all those other guys. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. Yep, it sure is interesting how so many DUers suddenly seem to be legal experts... |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
72. I appreciate your posts. nt |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
73. Heh... -> |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
74. Get this shit out of GDP already. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Soon, very soon. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. I'm not defending the FISA vote. I'm sick of you beating |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Put her on ignore. Or hide the thread, or both. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
90. Yes, do both by all means. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Not me, madfloridian! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. I think I responded to the wrong post. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. See how easy it is? |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. Maybe we should just forget about all the bills that have passed through Congress |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #87 |
110. Talk about it in a relevant subject forum |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #110 |
115. If it wasn't an issue in the Presidential race people wouldn't be talking about it. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #74 |
99. Yes, and Bush signed it yesterday, with Dick and Joe at his elbow. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
131. I forgot to thank you for the "pathological" reference to me. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
86. I Don't Think Quoting a Lot of Sources is an Issue |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Well, I did read it . It was a confusing maze to my non legal mind. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #88 |
142. I Know It's Confusing |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. When you read the bill did you notice how many subsections it references? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #86 |
100. Can you be more specific about these alleged misrepresentations? |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #86 |
103. You *say* that the contents have been seriously misrepresented by the ACLU et al |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. rofl - I got hammered by smileys |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #104 |
134. Those buggers are frownies, iconicgnom |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #103 |
127. Iconicgnom, I am Happy to Talk About Specifics |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. More discussion on that.... |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #128 |
137. The First Paragraph You Quote Says: |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. I'm not so sure it's hyperbole. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #143 |
152. Good, Now We're Talking |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #152 |
167. A few points: |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-15-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #167 |
170. Thank You for Clarifying the Definition of a Target |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #127 |
133. Re. Rachel Maddow |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. You are right. Bush himself said it gave "future" immunity. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #133 |
141. What I Suspect Various Critics are Doing |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #141 |
168. In response |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-15-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #133 |
171. You Don't Have to Throw Up Your Hands |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
145. Here's what you're not getting: none of those limitations are enforcable. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Maybe I am Missing Something |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. Yes, you are, and it's already been thoroughly explained to you in your own thread: |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. You're Pointing to the Whole Thread? |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
96. As always |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #96 |
102. Thanks. I did not mention Obama, and I am being accused of attacking him. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-11-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
97. Odd how all these lawyers, legislators and professors are proven wrong by anonymous posters |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #97 |
106. Yeah, it is really sad to see the day when ACLU lawyers are attacked on DU for opposing Bush's bill |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I spent a few hours reading it a couple of weeks ago |
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RNdaSilva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
109. "...there seems to be no middle ground now." |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. To many here there is NO middle ground...that was my point. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #113 |
117. And Bush said when signing, that he would like to pay a special |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. And then he gave his Bush smirk. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #119 |
125. Yes and I do believe this will be used against us... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
116. You need this. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Amazing. and not very funny and not very cute. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #122 |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:03 AM Response to Reply #118 |
155. How have we "progressives" here come to a point where ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #155 |
163. Thanks for the sensible response. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #163 |
166. Yes, we will. The door's been wide open since 2006 ... and well before! |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #116 |
120. Phill Gramm is that you? |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #116 |
124. actually I prefer a nice French Brie |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
126. Excellent diary at Kos....dropping way too fast though. |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
129. Great post, madfloridian. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
136. Feingold says it's fixable and believes Obama will do so. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
138. To my favorite angry and shrill resident of the southeasternmost U.S.: If I ever get to Fla. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
139. The middle ground |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
146. Court ruling repudiates what is in the upcoming FISA bill. |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. Does this belong in GDP? |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
149. It has NOTHING to do with you or your sources - people are in denial about the reality of the Obama |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #149 |
160. Absolutely We Should |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-12-08 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
151. I was told by a college Democrat that a college republican |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
157. "Other People's Lives": A stellar film, highly germane to the topic here: |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
159. You GO MF! You GO! |
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dougolat (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
164. 5,000,000 e-mails of Rove's |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. "To all the trusting souls who don't think routing maneuvers give them access to everything" |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #165 |
169. I'm too late to rec so I'll just kick this up - |
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