McCain reading from a piece of paper on a podium-trying to slam Obama on his remarks

[jenmito]

"My friends, before the surge, Obama said it would be a failure. But today he just said today that there was no doubt in my mind that the military would drastically reduce violence. Flip-floppers all over the world are enraged. It gives new meaning." (paraphrase) Then he went on to ridicule Obama for giving his speech BEFORE going on his "fact-finding mission" in Iraq and Afghanistan. His delivery is Bush-like. He's stumbling over his words even as he attacks Obama.

[nc4bo]

1. here we go..................again. nt

[babylonsister]

2. He had the gall to talk about flip-flopping?

We're up to 70 and counting with him!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6502228

[jenmito]

6. Exactly. I wish OBAMA would CALL him on his flip-flopping, though!

The label is sticking to Obama because the media keeps using it (just like McCain wants).

[babylonsister]

7. I think a meet-up is in order; Obama does have to counter this b.s. nt

[jenmito]

11. I agree. And if OBAMA doesn't talk about McCain's flip-flop hypocrisy, NOBODY will. If he DOES,

the media WILL cover it.

[Cronus Protagonist]

8. pot, meet kettle

not that i care about flipflops much.

[nc4bo]

3. I also notice........

he makes big emphasis on the words Commander in Chief (bomb, bomb bomb iran!).

yea, i'm nitpicking.

[Skidmore]

28. Not nitpicking. Earlier this morning, that terminology was what polled

high for him. He's running his flag up the pole.

What I'm reacting to is that Brownback and a couple of other goomers have been on since that speech carping on how McCain was responsible for the surge and its wonderful success and that only he can deliver victory in Iraq---which, of course, the American people want. Gag.

[bunnies]

4. My level of detest for this man has already exceeded that of GWB.

I never thought that would happen. Never.

[jenmito]

9. McCain is the one going against Obama which is why it's EASY to detest him more right now.

Bush is the past.

[bunnies]

17. Yep. Thats got to be it.

That and the fact that I find him to be an astonishingly loathsome human being. A genuine all around piece of shit. How anyone could support this man is absolutely beyond me. I see nothing good about him whatsoever. Nothing.

[jenmito]

24. I guess voting for "grandpa" is more comforting to some than voting for the

young, Black "secret Muslim." :eyes:

[bunnies]

34. Yep. Doesnt matter that grandpa is a vapid, senile, asshole.

We know he wont enslave white men and steal our wimin! :banghead:

[jenmito]

38. Exactly...

Sad but true.

[high density]

5. The last time McCain did this the media took it unquestionably and went with it

It seems like a winning strategy for McCain, assuming the media laps it up once again. It doesn't matter if Obama really changed or not, McCain says he "flip flopped" so that makes it news. And why is changing your opinion such a negative thing anyway?

[jenmito]

12. It's the narrative they're sticking with-flip-flopper vs. straight-talker. n/t

[hedgehog]

10. Well, according to George, people 62 and over have trouble

remembering things.

[babylonsister]

13. And he said that this morning! I couldn't believe it. Could be interpreted

as a 'shot' at McSame.

[jenmito]

18. I noticed that and thought, "Wow. And McCain is ten years OLDER than Bush."

[nc4bo]

14. There he goes again calling on his military experience (again).

WHAT military experience???!!!!

[jenmito]

20. Yup. Getting shot down makes him an expert, apparently.

[grantcart]

15. Its embarassing

his math is even childish

He stated that in Afghanistan, which had 35,000 troops nearly doubled its total troops to 55,000 which of course is an increase of about 50%

He would do great on budget issues.

[jenmito]

21. Just like one of his ads when he showed the gas tank showing $4 for 1.9 gallons of gas.

Talk about being out of touch, embarrassing, etc.

[jenmito]

16. MCCAIN just called OBAMA out for "trying to look tough" by talking about acting in Pakistan if he

has to, and said that HE won't use "bluster" BUT he WILL get bin Laden WHEREVER he is. :eyes:

[nc4bo]

19. even if bin laden is laid out in cold storage somewhere in an underground freezer :S nt.

[nc4bo]

22. can someone please send mr. mcshame some photos of the

damage caused by offshore rigs and broken pipe lines after Katrina hit them?

WTF?!

[burythehatchet]

23. "I know how to win wars"

How many wars have you won, asshole?

How many more would you start?

McAnus

[jenmito]

27. Yeah-I wondered which wars he was talking about. n/t

[flpoljunkie]

25. Rethug game is, with a pliant, willing media, to brand Obama a flip-flopper, like they did Kerry.

We need more Olbermanns who speak truth to power and journalists like Newsweek's Richard Wolffe, who said there had been 'sloppy reporting' in the media's falling for an Obama flip-flop on Iraq. Wolffe is a frequent guest of Olbermann, as well.

Sloppy or willful? That is the question.

[jenmito]

29. Exactly. I think Wolffe was being generous when he called it "sloppy

reporting." He didn't want to call it what it really is-covering for McCain.

[NatBurner]

26. my frens, my frens, my frensss

ugh

this is like a bad twilight zone

[jenmito]

32. That bugs me more than anything else he says. But I also hate when he smiles/laughs at

inappropriate times.

[grantcart]

30. and not a single strategic thought in that pea sized brain

[flpoljunkie]

31. McCain does not look well. Ever noticed how he often seems short or out of breath-though not quite

as pronounced as his fellow neocon, war mongering Dick Cheney.

[Vinca]

33. My friends . . . I've found I cannot watch McBush for one second.

I have the same reaction as I do when Shrub puts his kisser in front of a camera. Cannot, cannot watch them.

[Imagevision]

35. McCain will be entertaining when the one on one debates are aired and he has no notes to refer to

and dimentia kicks into play bigtime, but maybe he'll be miked like Bush.

[jenmito]

39. The funny thing is the Repubs. think McCain will shine in the debates since Obama

won't have a teleprompter to read from. They've REALLY lowered the expectations for Obama.

[NatBurner]

36. here he goes lying about the GI Bill again

what's all this "we" shit? YOU didn't even vote!

[jenmito]

40. And nobody calls him on it. Just like he pretends he's still for his "comprehensive immigration"

bill that he said he'd vote AGAINST (when speaking to the conservatives).

[Major Hogwash]

37. Somebody - anybody - should stand up and ask McCain where are the WMD's in Iraq.

Because since that was the lie that Bush used to get us into the war in Iraq, someone needs to remind McCain that this war is an illegal, immoral war because it was started on lies, rumors, and innuendo.

Continuing to fight a war based on lies is a lie itself.

We are not making the world safer for anyone by staying in Iraq.

[jenmito]

41. I agree. They should also ask him if he'd still invade Iraq knowing what we know now.

Bush said he WOULD and I'm pretty sure McCain said he would, too.

[Lord Helmet]

42. he's old

[jenmito]

43. He's TOO old.