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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:58 PM
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Barack Obama gave a big speech today
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 02:13 PM by FLDem5
I was at the car wash, and everyone was paying attention to it. Men in suits, families with strollers, women in heels, students in jeans.

I come here, and once again, am amazed at the drivelfest. What has DU become?

Jeepers.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:00 PM
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1. people were listening?
There is hope!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:01 PM
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3. yeah, it was on Fox News though,
so afterwards, we had to listen to Lindsay Graham.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:08 PM
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6. DOH!
Just why is that almost every frigin TV in a business in America has to have fox on?

I just don't understand how it became the TV news show to have on when its obviously full of shit so often.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:39 PM
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13. Ask them to turn it off
That's what my mom does. Whenever she goes into a doctor's office or pizza place and sees Fox News on, she says that as a paying customer she does not appreciate them using their store as a showcase for that propaganda and she would appreciate if they would change the channel. They usually do, and they probably put it back on the next day, but at least the customers for the rest of the day or the shift or whatever are spared.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:00 PM
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2. DU likes to debate. So there's no focus on the topics with which we call agree. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:02 PM
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4. You know we watched; m$nbc and that other cable channel
showed the speech in its entirety. McCain was up next, and they cut away after awhile (at least cnn did:rofl:)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6502871
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:03 PM
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5. Cool - thanks for the link -
I couldn't believe I could not find a thread about the speech when I finally got home. I was very disappointed at the New Yorker-a-thon that was still going on.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:59 PM
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10. I would view that as taking pity on McCain...
He is a horrible speaker. Not letting people hear him speak is the best thing the media clowns can do for McCain.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:21 PM
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7. Here - TPM has a great analysis on it which I posted over here - it needs one more REC
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 02:24 PM by Pirate Smile
to go to the Greatest Page.

Come on over - it was a great speech!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6504066&mesg_id=6504066

edit to add - I see you are already there. Thanks for pointing out the speech again.

Why aren't more of people discussing that?

Focus, people, focus!
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:37 PM
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8. People are afraid to read?
"I will give our military a new mission on my first day in office: ending this war. Let me be clear: we must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. We can safely redeploy our combat brigades at a pace that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010 – one year after Iraqi Security Forces will be prepared to stand up; two years from now, and more than seven years after the war began. After this redeployment, we’ll keep a residual force to perform specific missions in Iraq: targeting any remnants of al Qaeda; protecting our service members and diplomats; and training and supporting Iraq’s Security Forces, so long as the Iraqis make political progress."

"I will send at least two additional combat brigades to Afghanistan, and use this commitment to seek greater contributions – with fewer restrictions – from NATO allies."

"Make no mistake: we can't succeed in Afghanistan or secure our homeland unless we change our Pakistan policy. We must expect more of the Pakistani government, but we must offer more than a blank check to a General who has lost the confidence of his people. It's time to strengthen stability by standing up for the aspirations of the Pakistani people. That's why I'm cosponsoring a bill with Joe Biden and Dick Lugar to triple non-military aid to the Pakistani people and to sustain it for a decade."

The whole speech....

http://my.barackobama.com/page/commu...dascott/gGxkFr
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 02:58 PM
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9. I'm shocked and scared about the numbers...
Obama should have at least a 10 - 15 point lead in the polls at this point. So hearing how much attention his speech is receiving gives hope, for the moment.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:04 PM
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11. For you...
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 03:06 PM by babylonsister
also, it's early. I'm not sweating yet, and expect great reviews when Obama starts traveling.


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/15/latest-quinnipiac-poll-gives-obama-solid-lead/

Latest Quinnipiac Poll Gives Obama Solid Lead

Susan Davis reports on the presidential race.

pollThe latest Quinnipiac University Poll gives Barack Obama a national 50%-41% lead over rival John McCain, bolstered by strong support among blacks, women, and young voters. McCain has a slight lead among men as well as white voters. The candidates split the spoils among independents and seniors.

Maurice Carroll, director of the polling institute, said Obama’s lead is “solid—but not monolithic.”

Obama has near unanimous support among blacks, 94%-1%, and a nearly 20 point lead, 55%-36%, among women. His lead among young voters 18 to 34 years old is even greater at 63%-31%.

However, in older voting blocs, Obama’s support narrows to 48%-44% among 35 to 54 year olds, and is neck and neck with McCain among voters 55 years old and older with McCain leading 45%-44%.

McCain’s lead among men is narrow, 47%-44%, but larger among whites overall at 49%-42%. Further, Obama trails closely behind McCain in so-called Red States—ones that voted for George W. Bush by more than five percentage points in 2004—with 44% to McCain’s 47%. In swing states, Obama leads 50%-39%.

As for race and age, 88% of respondents said they were “entirely” or “somewhat” comfortable with having a black president, with 9% expressing some level of discomfort. Meanwhile, 64% said they are “entirely” or “somewhat” comfortable with voting for a candidate who will be 72 years old on Election Day. While 75% said age isn’t a factor in their vote, 20% said it would make them less likely to vote for McCain.

Such topics, generally, are hard to poll because many respondents may be reluctant to voice existing reservations. “We note with a grain of salt that voters tell us they’re not prejudiced against Obama because of race, or that only 20 percent are worried about McCain’s age,” Carroll said.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:18 PM
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12. Whew... thanks:)
I'll keep my fears reeled in for a while:) I guess because I see how many worlds can fit between these two candidates, I expect EVERYONE else to see them as well.

This should be a no-brainer, a virtual land slide.
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