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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:27 PM
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Newsweek Poll Large sampling ERRORS
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 04:02 PM by Gnister
No wonder why Obama only lead McCain by 3 % in the last Newsweek Poll. Look at the structure of the sample of the Poll:

Age Structure:
AGE
18-39........16,95%
40-59........38,52%
60%..........44,53%


Hmmm, wonder which candidate a sample like that would favor......

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:28 PM
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1. shoddy work, stupidity, or ? nt
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:40 PM
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2. The only thing that makes any kind
of sense here (and not really) is that this is the percentage breakdown of likely voters based on history. But in a year such as this, history is no guide.
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:45 PM
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5. Here's the Age demographic of the votes the election 2004
National voters Demographic in the presidental election 2004 according to CNN:
18-29.....17%
30-44.....29%
45-59.....30%
60+.......24%

http://us.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html?click


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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:43 PM
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3. What would the correct sample be?
:shrug:
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:46 PM
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6. 2004 Demographic of national voters
National voters Demographic in the presidental election 2004 according to CNN:
18-29.....17%
30-44.....29%
45-59.....30%
60+.......24%

http://us.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html?click
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:44 PM
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4. So they are saying that only 16% of respondents were between the age of 18-39?
they would be a much higher percentage of total turnout than that.
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:52 AM
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12. ...
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:49 PM
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7. Newsweek's recent poll means one thing: Don't trust Newsweek's polling.
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 03:49 PM by TexasObserver
45% over age 60!!

39% 40-59 years old!!

17% under age 40!!

That looks a sample for selling adult diapers or denture cream, not a weighed poll of voters.
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ravishane Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:50 PM
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8. let them have their lame polls
The voter turnout amongst 18-39 people will be unprecedented this November.

That Obama is still ahead, given this sample, is pretty telling.
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:52 PM
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9. But it's important that the young people turn out to vote!!!
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ravishane Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:06 PM
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11. yeah it is important
I am on a college campus, and trust me, the turnout will be ridiculous. I am Purdue University which is a conservative campus with all sorts of right-wing maniacs around. Things are vastly different here now than they were in 2000. People were turning out for Bush in somewhat comparable amounts to Kerry. November will NOT be the same.
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Gnister Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:03 PM
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10. Which shows the importance of young people
And to get the attention of the 60+ to understand that McCain only will send their children and grand children out to wars....
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:57 AM
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13. AHH come ON NewsWeak!! This one's obvious!!!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 12:11 PM
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14. You know, the good thing about the 40 - 50 oversample is McSame is STILL losing
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chapel hill dem Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 12:23 PM
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15. Ignorant question here. I thought pollsters normalized the raw results
to reflect the actual demographics.

Or have I completely missed a big point?

TIA
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