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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:07 AM Original message |
Obama says New Yorker insulted Muslim Americans |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. good for him for even saying that. nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. No, it doesn't. nt |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm assuming you meant that it doesn't "have something to say"? |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I "have something to say" |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Not the first time Obama has said this |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Are you a Muslim American? If not, how do you know how they feel? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I have several friends who are Muslims, |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Good. I'm just saying Obama isn't just saying that for nothing; he might |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Perhaps domestic Muslims think differently... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
91. lol ah the "some of my best friends are xxxxx" line. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Of course it does. It depicts all the RW SMEARS against the Obamas-one of which is simply being |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
10. How can so many people, including Obama, miss the point? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I think Obama's point is that being a Muslim SHOULDN'T BE something to be afraid of, but |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. It is indeed sad. Perhaps something good will come out of all this by addressing that. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. It shouldn't be... that's why it is all the more satirical |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. But their putting being Muslim in the same category as burning the American flag and the |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. It shouldn't be, but it is, and that is stupid |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Apples and oranges. The satire is showing all the false NEGATIVE things said about |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. You clearly don't understand satire... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. You clearly don't understand my point... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. If they truly understood the satire... |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. It's clear to me that someone doesn't "get it" that good satire... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Thanks for proving my point so eloquently... |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
94. You're the only one who's confused here... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. You mind reading is failing you miserably... |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Oh, now comes the clever sexual innuendo. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #96 |
103. I happen to be a communications professional |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Yeah, right, it certainly shows. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. 'implied masturbation motif" |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Anyone who read your last post would likely disagree with you. |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. What you said here, says it all: |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. The satire depicts being Muslim as a negative thing. Obama's NOT a Muslim (despite the belief to |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. You should really view Jon Stewart's "Daily Show" bit on this |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. My mother deleted it after she saw it and removed it from her recorder's list. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Well, that's just sad... eom |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. For you, maybe. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. No, for your mother... |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. You have obviously never met my mother. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. How sad you can't read for comprehension |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. plenty. Now give opening your mind a go. |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
101. Wow, what lovely bromides you offer. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. You should really know I DID watch it. And I agreed with him and I "get it." |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Clearly you didn't pay attention to Stewart at all! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Clearly you didn't pay attention to what I said at all! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. LOL!!! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Get off your high horse. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. You insult instead of offering a sound thought... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. You: "LOL!!! Whatever. That makes no sense, but whatever." |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Neener neener to you too... |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. ! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Your posts have gone all school yard... |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. Me thinks you give them waaaay too much credit. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Methinks you just don't understand satire... |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. We're just going to have to disagree on this. I guess I'm just a dumbass. |
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sakura (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #66 |
90. No, you're not that. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Just ran across this, and no one's missing the point. |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Thanks SO much for that! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I disagree |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Even though you disagree doesn't mean Muslims can't be insulted, |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Those who aren't paying attention, sure |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Well, I'm really grateful I met an expert who can let me know how |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Do me a favor and think about it without closing your mind and resorting to insulting... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. There you go again, telling me what I'm doing and not doing. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I was merely parroting you |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
107. Wow, I see your communication skills are at work here! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. You can lead a horse to water... |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. They can be insulted all they want. That doesn't make it valid. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Exactly... it only makes them look stupid, asaic |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
56. It's so bizarre to direct criticism at TNY when they are on your side. |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #56 |
92. No kidding! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. The imagery does not re-inforce negative stereotypes |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Well said... |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. And that also would have weakened the point |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. It would have dumbed the whole damn thing down, that's for sure |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-17-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
99. Obama did not miss the point |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. Good for him for speaking out against this bigotry. I'm sick of people saying Muslim = Evil n/t |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
12. Well, I guess he would know, being a Musl... hey, wait a minute! |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. LOL! |
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redcatcherb412 (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. probably not too far off target |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
19. I think he is right about that |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
21. But...but....it's SATIRE! How STUPID is he?! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. He's reinforcing knee jerk obsession with being offended |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Part of satire is that people are stupid for being afraid of muslims |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. That isn't a stretch at all! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. Not at all. And Obama just threw away an opportunity |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Obama is smart enough to be our Democratic Nominee |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. To parrot you... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. You call names, I win the debate... eom |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
86. Wow. How...mature. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
105. I guess the mods agreed with me... |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. OT - another Blitt cartoon from the New Yorker |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I don't believe that is the best way for Obama to play it |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
43. Jon Stewart last night said the same thing, Obama must have noticed? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Are you sure? Were you watching the same episode the rest of us were? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
47. Really. From the Campaign that asked women wearing headscarf's |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
55. Obama plays it safe. What a surprise and what a mistake. n/t |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
57. Thanks again, David |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
70. Sad we need to be reminded that "Muslim" is not an insult. |
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FredfromSpace (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
73. Another humorless response |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
76. The implication is that Obama's a Muslim |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
83. More total nonsense. n/t |
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detectivecastro (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
84. The cartoon was unjustifiable |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. I almost forgot that you're no longer with us, detective. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
88. And white folks say brown folks are oversensitive and too stupid to get the intent.... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
106. Hmmm... just curious... |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Given that you're flying a Celtic cross as your avatar... |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
112. I don't think the New Yorker did any such thing |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
113. I disagree |
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