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GihrenZabi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:20 PM Original message |
Does anyone seriously think Obama isn't going to win this? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. election fraud and a complicit media. edit- but you certainly have your rationalization planned out |
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GihrenZabi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Wow |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. I agree Obama should but whether he will is up to our tainted election system. This is why |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. My grave concern as well. We HAVE to come out in HUGE numbers |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. EZ money , Obama will landslide mccain... |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. Even Diebold isn't going to help Johnny on this election... |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Hope you're right, but don't forget the 'security' meme... |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. 'no attacks since 2001' - WTC 93 attack= 8 years - 2001 WTC attack=7 years w/o attacks |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Nope. It has to be simpler than that. One sentence tops. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. One sentence; "2001 WTC attack =7 years without attacks |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. thanks for trying, but... |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
54. The "morons" are no longer a voting majority. |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:23 PM Original message |
McCain is an old white man, Obama is a young-ish black man. |
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thetaoofterri (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
56. So, are you saying that's the only reason |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Well, if they're the sort of people who've voted for Democrats for 30-odd years... |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, the John McCain followers |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. McCain could pull it off.......... |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Change the name in your question. Just the name. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. Sad to say I agree. In 2004 after Moms had to hold bake sales to buy armor for our soldiers |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. while i can see how you |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. Obama will beat McCain. |
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Kaylee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yes.....Media, Media, and more Media. |
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PatGund (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. Anything is possible.... |
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NattPang (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Obama will beat McCain, if we all make sure of it. |
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bermudat (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. Do not underestimate the low information voter. |
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griffi94 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. i agree with you |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
43. Every 4 years I hear how |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. As in 04, the only way the Repubs win is by cheating, mainly w/ ES&S et al. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. I don't discount anything. I thought that Kerry would win in '04 too. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
15. Agree. So.... |
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Fire_brand (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. The Jeremiah Wright stuff could come back to hurt Obama |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:44 PM Original message |
bullshit. Rev Wright isn't running for president and Obama distanced himself. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
29. Bush did win in 04. Kerry ran a lousy campaign. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I'm from Ohio and witnessed it first hand. Read this and it doesn't even take |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Mmm... I think it's old news already. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Oh, it'll be back, don't you worry |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
18. You bet your ass McCain can win this |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Today Obama has a 3 point lead over McCain ---> In Arizona... |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. This is July 16. It doesn't mean a thing for November |
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nancyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. Never take anything for granted. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
21. As much as we want to win..... |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
24. The same republican owned voting machines as in 2004 are still neatly in place and nothing has.... |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. Diebold and a bought and paid for M$M ensure this is far from being a sure thing.... |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. what you said. All of it. |
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Youphemism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. You sound like the media: "Why isn't he further ahead now?" |
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GihrenZabi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
30. I just can't see it happening |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. Anyone who counts the Republicans out is a fool |
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nevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:50 PM Original message |
It will be very very close. |
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Scairp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
35. It is my greatest fear |
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VADem11 (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I disagree |
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Scairp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I am aware that the primaries are over |
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KaryninMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. I respectfully disagree. Hillary could not have won this election. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
37. 60 million voted for Bush the second time. Never underestimate the idiots in this country |
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LaPera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. They also stole votes BIG time in the 2006 election..... |
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Blondiegrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
76. EXACTLY. n/t |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. I think there is a good chance |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. Such bigotry. |
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GihrenZabi (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Move to Blue States |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. when I see somebody say something like that I just watch this |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
47. Past History |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
48. Polls have them only a few points apart and the last two elections have been |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
49. Republicans still own the voting machine companies. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
52. the electoral college, which favors rural areas, always gives |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
55. That's why we need to be on the lookout for election fraud |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
57. If the Status Quo Continues |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
60. This has to be an election that almost ANY democrat |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. McCain's not the incumbent though. And McCain runs better in polls |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. The GOP is in a very weak position |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
62. What were your predictions for '00 & '04? |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. The GOP stars were never so misaligned in either 2000 or 2004 |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
63. Diebold, Sequoia, & rigged public opinion polls could turn an Obama landslide into a close win for |
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Timmy5835 (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
64. Of course Obama will win |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
65. This guy doesn't think so.... |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
66. McCain is the only one who HAS a shot in hell of pulling it off. And they nominated him. |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
68. Yep |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
70. Overconfidence will be our undoing... |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
71. McCain can win the same way Bush got in in 2004 when he shouldn't have |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
74. If it weren't for electoral fraud, I'd think he has it in the bag. |
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Blondiegrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-16-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
75. Um, YES. John McCain can win this election. |
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