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daa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:15 PM Original message |
Obama disinvited 'lobbyist' Cleland |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. More crap from Ben Smith |
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ErinBerin84 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. seriously, I hate Ben Smith. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. "he wouldn't be welcome". I SERIOUSLY doubt Cleland was told "he wouldn't be welcome". |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I read on here, yesterday |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. BEN SMITH IS A SHILL FOR THE RIGHT |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. ..and he would be criticized if he HAD let him show up. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. it had to be done--would Cleland consider de-registering as a lobbyist? |
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islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. thank god jr.bush & karl rove never treated max without the respect he deserves... |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. He is being consistent about lobbyist. Calm down. It isn't about Max and I'm sure Max knows that. |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. But the Obama campaign hasn't always been consistent about lobbyists. |
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kitfalbo (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. whee |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. LOL. If you'd read the WP article, you'd have seen that co-director was still a lobbyist, |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I've been here longer than you., |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Did I attack the candidate down thread? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. i'm glad we've got you to remind us of Obama "inconsistencies" |
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4themind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
48. A possibility |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. Can he really campaign that he only takes "good" lobbyists? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. Ben Smith? You can do better than that! |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. This was a huge mistake on Obama's part |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Why not wait to hear from the campaign first? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Good point |
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daa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I really did not expected so many excuses |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. What's so difficult to understand about the term "registered" lobbyist? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I belong to the Sons of American Legion |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
45. every campaign makes mistakes, and this one makes less than any I've seen |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. Cleland is a registered lobbyist. Obama does not accept support from lobbyists. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. They should have known that before they invited him |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Yes. Perhaps they should make a point of asking people if they are registered |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. or do a search of the database |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
47. They do |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. Alright! |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. I have a question |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Deleted sub-thread |
jaylemond77 (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
23. I agree with the move, but why did invite Cleland in the first place? |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
25. O's campaign co-director in Puerto Rico was a lobbyist; his spokesman said the rules aren't airtight |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. NY Times story with more details. Cleland was surprised but isn't upset: |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. Sounds to me like a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. Unfortunate, pulling it "last minute" |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. True |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Reading the NY Times article makes more sense |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I hadn't read anything past the politico yet |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I posted the link to the NY Times story upthread, as soon as I found it via Google News. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
38. This is the trouble with ALL zero-tolerance policies - |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. The problem is |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-18-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. And that's exactly why such policies are brain-dead |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:15 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Both of us know |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Yes, but what is the point of taking the position at all? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. i think it has to do with the media |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
49. This had to be a tough call |
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4themind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
50. Quotes from NY Times article including Cleland's response |
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