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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 03:39 PM
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Al-Maliki's support of Obama's plan: prominent Republican strategist "We're fucked."
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 03:49 PM by Pirate Smile
Al-Maliki's Announcement: A Big Deal
19 Jul 2008 02:23 pm

This could be one of those unexpected events that forever changes the way the world perceives an issue. Iraq's Prime Minister agrees with Obama, and there's no wiggle room or fudge factor. This puts John McCain in an extremely precarious spot: what's left to argue? to argue against Maliki would be to predicate that Iraqi sovereignty at this point means nothing. Obviously, our national interests aren't equivalent to Iraq's, but... Malik isn't listening to the generals on the ground...but the "hasn't been to Iraq" line doesn't work here.

So how will the McCain campaign respond?

(Via e-mail, a prominent Republican strategist who occasionally provides advice to the McCain campaign said, simply, "We're fucked." No response yet from the McCain campaign, although here's what McCain said the last time Maliki mentioned withdrawal: "Since we are succeeding, then I am convinced, as I have said before, we can withdraw and withdraw with honor, not according to a set timetable. And I’m confident that is what Prime Minister Maliki is talking about, since he has told me that for many meetings we’'ve had."

Will Maliki retract his words?

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/almalikis_announcement_a_big_d.php



How could this bad news for the McCain campaign possibly be made even worse?

Major WH Blunder: Emails al-Maliki Story to Reporters

by turneresq
Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 01:19:35 PM PDT


Stupid is as stupid does.

The White House this afternoon accidentally sent to its extensive distribution list a Reuters story headlined "Iraqi PM backs Obama troop exit plan - magazine."

The story relayed how Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told the German magazine Der Spiegel that "he supported prospective U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months ... ‘U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes,'" the prime minister said.

The White House employee had intended to send the article to an internal distribution list, ABC News' Martha Raddatz reports, but hit the wrong button.


My take: The WH was obviously freaking out after the announcement that al-Maliki supports Obama's plan, and of course was planning to email this around internally get some some advice from advisers and get their talking points together. This also ensures additional coverage of this issue. The Obama camp of course has already pounced on this:

The national security adviser to the Obama campaign, Susan Rice, said the senator welcomed Maliki's support.

"This presents an important opportunity to transition to Iraqi responsibility, while restoring our military and increasing our commitment to finish the fight in Afghanistan," Rice said in a statement Saturday.


This is just starting to hit the media; unlike McCain leaking Obama's travel schedule, this is just too big to ignore. The implications are huge, when you consider what would have happened had the opposite occurred:

To really understand the importance of Maliki's comments, you need to consider their opposite. Imagine if Maliki had walked in front of the cameras and said, "at this stage, a timetable for withdrawal is unrealistic, and we hope our American friends will not bow to domestic political pressures and be hasty in leaving Iraq just as the country improves." It would be a transformative moment in this election. John McCain would talk of nothing else. The cable shows would talk of nothing else. Magazines would run thousands of covers about "Obama's Iraq Problem." Obama would probably lose the race.


Indeed.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/19/141354/208/337/553922


edit to add:

McCain Campaign Responds To Al-Maliki
19 Jul 2008 02:59 pm

"His domestic politics require him to be for us getting out," said a senior McCain campaign official, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "The military says 'conditions based' and Maliki said 'conditions based' yesterday in the joint statement with Bush. Regardless, voters care about military, not about Iraqi leaders."

An Obama official, also speaking on background, asks:

"So given that al-Maliki said today that it’s time for an official timetable and that Obama “is right when he talks about 16 months,” will McCain honor that commitment and call for withdrawal or change his position that we should leave Iraq if asked?"

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/mccain_campaign_responds_to_al.php

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 03:44 PM
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1. Hahahahaha!
:rofl: Reality bites!
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 03:49 PM
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2. Wonder what GW and Rice did to cause Maliki to make such a
bold statement? Maliki needs to have an exit strategy or GW will provide one for him.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 03:51 PM
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3. So now the McCain camp is saying that Iraqi leaders don't matter. nm
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 03:54 PM
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4. Is this the final nail in the coffin for Gramps?
Seriously, this is a huge blow to his campaign, his credibility, and a lot of his national security plans.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 03:58 PM
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5. A very SMART prominent Republican strategist :-) n/t
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:08 PM
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6. F-U Republican A-holes! LOL!
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 04:08 PM by npincus
Can you say "Failure" all together, boys and girls?

:rofl:

We've overstayed our welcome! The party in Iraq ia over, the piggies feeding at the trough has better pack up!

:rofl:




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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:53 PM
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9. GREAT NEWS!!
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dempartisan23 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:53 PM
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10. GREAT NEWS!!
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:06 PM
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13. You can say that again.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:09 PM
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7. Some WH employee is having a very, very bad weekend.
But not as bad as the McCain campaign.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:34 PM
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8. I seldom agree with Republican strategists, but...
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 04:35 PM by Gman
I agree that they're fucked.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 06:40 PM
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11. Who is Susan Rice?
The last security advisor named Rice left a bad taste in my mouth.

-Hoot
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 06:44 PM
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12. Finally, after all of these
years, one tiny bit of the White House's incompetence pays off for the people of this country. To that unknown idiot in the White House who "hit the wrong button," thank you.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:19 PM
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14. "When they stand up, we'll tell them to sit back down." --- McCain Doctrine
He's about to look really bad, when he seems to be saying "we will stay there for as long as WE feel like it, and that may be a hundred years."
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