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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:08 PM Original message |
Chuck Hagel just might be the VP pick and it may already be decided |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. I disagree. Obama is not going to do that to us. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That assumes Obama thinks he would be "doing something" to |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Would he really force us to stomach an anti-choice VP? |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. I personally wouldn't mind Hagel.... however... |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. You don't mind putting a conservative republican a heartbeat away from the presidency? |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Not at all |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. So you have no problem with someone who is anti-choice, anti-gay rights, and anti-environment? |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I don't agree with Obama 100% either |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Hagel is against 90% of what we stand for |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. All I'm saying is I wouldn't mind him, and what do you mean by "we"? |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. But not for moderate liberals who support conservative republicans for VP. |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. the reason I wouldn't mind |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. "We" as Democrats. We do have a party platform. |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Obama's message has always been simple |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. lol |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. well to me |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. I'd say he's been more than calm and civil under your silly goading. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #80 |
94. I think you have it backwards |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I could have been nicer, but your statements were clear to me |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. I'm hardly far left |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Okay, well if you truly didn't mean that |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. No problem |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. and since I made it clear |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. Deleted sub-thread |
Spouting Horn (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
71. The war/foreign policy |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:58 PM Original message |
exactly my thoughts |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Several potential VP picks agree with Obama regarding the war. Not reason enough. nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
88. I like your last sentence. :) |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. glad to hear it, I'm really pulling for him as well :) |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. Anyone who would find this alright would be a right leaning dem...for |
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adoraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. wrong. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's a deal breaker to a lot of folks |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. I assume that "A lot of folks" means |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. It means a lot of folks I know IRL |
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slick8790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. How much more do "they want"? |
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onetinsoldier (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
83. labels equals a lazy mind |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. McKinney was one of the best representatives |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. Being a dem does not mean that you are just against the war...not |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
97. I would vote for Cynthia |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
95. There was no "deal" in the first place. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
116. It's a deal breaker for me. If I wanted to vote for a conservative asshole I'd vote for McCain |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:12 PM Original message |
Extremely doubtful. They share a position on the war and |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
5. We've known for days that Hagel and Reed were going on this trip. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. To counter-balance McCain dragging Lieberman around like a bad fart (nt) |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama said he is a different candidate and wants to bring the sides together |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Won't be Hagel unless he wants to lose big time. |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. In other words you don't care about other issues than the war...I just |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I wouldn't mind it, but I would not like it either. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. I can see Hagel in the cabinet, but not as VP. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
11. Obama trip with Hagel & Reed = Hagel for VP? |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't believe such a choice would be very helpful for Obama |
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redstate_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
104. Exactly. I'm starting to believe that some of these "Democrats" |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. He'd make a fine Secretary of Defense |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. That's what ran through my head. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. Nice source there G |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. I don't want another Rethuglican POS that close to the presidency. |
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Not the Only One (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. The only 1/1 odds on VP is that the VP will be white |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Exactly. The key is they share a common position on this war. |
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nevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
18. Not going to happen |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
63. This is a deal breaker for me...that would be the one thing that would |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
20. FUCK that election stealing republican criminal bastard. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
21. No way!! |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
25. I hope it's just so he can help with the campaign |
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Duder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
28. Nonsense... |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
31. Never |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. SOD n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. Deleted sub-thread |
rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
35. Obama picking Hagel would be a gift to McCain. nt |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. Disagree. |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
37. No. fucking. way. It will not happen and if you are looking for why Hagel went with him, it is too |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
40. 1-It was announced weeks ago that Hagel & Reed were going. 2-I think you're just trying to shit stir |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. Nice leap of logic there |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
42. Why are you quoting Drudge? |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
43. And if something happened to Obama ... we would have a repug |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
44. Jack Reed just might be the VP pick and it may already be decided.... |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
50. It demonstrates well that he'll work with Republicans. |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I'd rather he ran with scissors pointed at the other side of the aisle. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
51. Where's that "oh, no, not this shit again" photo? n/t |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Here ya go... |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Thanks - that's the one. :-) |
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RNdaSilva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
119. Yep... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
59. Or you and Drudge could just be making shit up. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
60. It was announced earlier that Hagel would be travelling with Obama. Then, after that, there |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
61. I'm not getting Hagel as the veep pick. |
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Jazzgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
62. I call bullshit. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
64. These threads are FUCKING INSANE. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
65. These Senate trips abroad are always bipartisan |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
66. Not gonna happen |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
68. Even odds on Hagel? |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. You make money by playing the longshot |
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World Citizen (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
72. take another look at your evidence... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
73. Drudge?! |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
74. You might be guessing wrong. |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
75. Drudge!!! |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
76. Don't support Hagel as V.P. BUT IT IS A REAL OPTION THAT DEMS MUST GET THEIR HEAD AROUND |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. How so? |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Well, YOU certainly have been pushing it |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #76 |
102. I wouldn't term it with such a broad brush like DEMS |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #76 |
117. oh how cute. you're here now. |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
81. No fucking way, this is a typical GOP tactic to create division. Hagel is just as self-interested... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
82. This is nothing but silly guessing. There are far better choices for Obama strategy than Hagel. |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
84. Obama/Hagel or Obama/Powell! Now that some change we can believe in. |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Evidence is IN that a Repub popular w Indies would be the most certain route to OBAMA LANDSLIDE! |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
98. Evidence is IN that a slimy Republican does not belong as the Democratic Party VP candidate! (n/t) |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. It's bullshit and you damn well know it. |
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golddigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #91 |
106. Well, tell it to the ones who see no problem with it.. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. The main people pushing these stupid ideas here are those who resent that Obama won the primary. |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Do you have any EVIDENCE for this. Seems to me the OPPOSITE is true. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
85. I have a strict personal policy of NEVER voting for a rePIG |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Likewise. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. No quandary here. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
93. O fucking ... not this shit againl... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. You forgot the pic.... |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
112. Or this one |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #93 |
108. Ahhh... I love it... Kucinich for VP! Kucinich for VP! No GOP wackjob would touch Obama. (n/t) |
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TheDonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
107. OBAMA WILL NOT PICK HAGEL. NUFF SAID |
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NancyG (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
110. I really, really doubt it as |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Casey, Baracks best friend in PA is PRO-LIFE. It;s not a crime. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
114. Is this 'Yet another Hagel Thread???" |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 10:30 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. As soon as you kill one |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-19-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
118. It would be a serious breach of Party, common sense, and logical Rules |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
120. ANYBODY who believes this jackassshit is Certifiably Delusional. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
121. This is idiotic - Hagel is the Ranking member of the NE and ME SFRC subcommittee |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-20-08 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
122. Fuck Sludge and the OP it rode it on. n/t |
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